Lambone

Bummer Carolyn, glad to hear you're ok. Falling Ice is no joke, and its always super important avoid that danger...but you don't need me to tell you that. It was a smart descision to rap off the route imediately. Sometimes that is a tough call to make when in shock. It's always my first instinct to tough it out and keep going. Earlier this season I caught a large chunk (or at least it felt pretty damn big) straight on top of my helmet. Probably the best place it could have hit me, but it stil came from about 200'+ above. It rattled me for sure. I'm not any more scared to ice climb now, just alot more cautious about where I choose to hang out. Just take this as a learning experience. Always trust your instincts, and if you don't feel comfortable about what your partner is doing, tell them right away!

The firm that my Fiance works for is in the proscess of a major environmental impact statement for a proposed gravel mine near Exit 38. This may have something to do with that...but I'm not sure.

Goin to the Valley next week... Hey all you crazy guys that aid out at Index in the winter! Can anyone recomend good cold weather aiding gloves? I have dry tool gloves, and neoprene boating gloves, is there anything better then that? Coments about how free climbing is better then aid climbing are not nesecary(that means you erik). Thanks! [ 03-08-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

On the topic: One use for 70meter ropes, you can link all the pitches on Lurking Fear if soloing. Turning a 28 pitch route into a 15 pitch route. Check out www.supertopo.com for beta.

quote: Originally posted by erik: well greg, when you move away from exit 38 there are routes and crag where a 70m rope works much better..... all my ropes are 70m and i carry them in the mtns..... cannot we not stop the stupidity!!!!!! Erik, do you have big rope envy or something...my rope is looonger than yoooure rope. Get over it dude, leave the sport climbers alone. Index is cool, but come on it's not that cool....as cool as you at least.

They ussualy offer a 10-15% discount if you pay for them up front, but I'm not sure about the details of this demo. All the local reps are usualy there, and its a good time to ask them questions about shoes and other gear.

quote: Originally posted by Heinouscling: Gyms will work to. Now theres a fucking scene. I haven't been to VW in Seattle in three years. But lately, I've been hearing some real soap opera tales about that place. -Heinous Soap Oprea!!!HAHAHA...yeah like I heard that blahblah changed a hold on blahblah's route and now they are out for blood. There is this whole ego struggle between the 6am yoga crowd and the after work crowd...and I hear the employes are about to start locking costomers in for the night if they are not off the wall by 9:55!!

I just comleted an extensive research topic on this subject (although the sample size was pretty small). Look for the results as soon as I have some time to post them here. Thanks to those who participated!

That looks real cool Jeff, especialy with all that sun!

Woooohooooo!!!! the 18 page marathon is finaly finished. My eyes are buggin out of my head so i'll have to wait until tommorow before posting the results of the CC.com sample group. All in all there were 30 responses to the survey. More later....I need food and beer

Yes, near Tieton.

I would assume liver failure...

Haven't seen any yet, but I think I will if I am 100% sure it's an avatar. I don't know why anyone would want to do the survey twice...

Thats ok, padding the numbers on steepness and pitch length is to be extected. I've found it to be pretty much the norm in Washington(and every where else for that matter). Nice climb fellas, way to get after it! Cheers [ 03-01-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

28 surveys have been submited from CC.comers so far, thanks everybody I will start totaling the numbers tommorow. Any more takers?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: bone I give you a B. suggest more alpine time and trad/ice to balance out your work related overconcentration on gym subjects. I concentrated on gym subjects because that was what allison asked me about. I suggest that you don't make assumptions about the experience climbers may or may not posses. I'll be concentrating on trad subjects as soon as Spring Break roles around. Thanks for the concern.

I know that he isn't out of the woods yet, but once Jim is in the mood to drink beers again we should throw a big party! But not on a Tuesday night.

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quote: Originally posted by highclimb: I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELEIVE ANYMORE..........EVERYONE IS AGAINST ME!!! I'm not! So hey...wanna fill out my survey? I need more yougsters to help my stratified sampling technique.

The Metolious Chief is a good cheaper bag, but the harness sucks, and I can't reach the bottom of it. That was funny eric, I didn't realize how that first post sounds if read out of context. You're so quick to pick up on such things...

Wear a helmet. If you are sport climbing and the climber falls on you from above the first clip, it will be no big deal...kinda like playing tag football or something. Be ready to move from side to side abit to get out from directly under the climber. This is kinda hard if your strapped down to a big rock or tree or something. If your in the mountains its different (of course). You need to take objective danger like rock and ice fall into consideration. Look for safe belay stances and try to move to the side instead of directly under the climber. Ussually on multi pitch stuff you'll be close to the wall anyway right... Hows that, do I pass

Almost 20 submissions so far, that kicks ass...the more the merrier. Avoid the spray by sending your response via PM or e-mail. Thanks everybody!

I like the Metolious Half Dome. Its short and fat, making it easy to reach the bottom (Crucial when you last Jolly Rancher has fallen to the bottom of the bag), but still big enough for grade VI routes. Its got a descent harness, and has a lower center of gravity when on the back. That would be my suggestion, I am tottaly happy with mine.