MysticNacho

That is one mightily beautiful photo.

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I demand more Uncle Tricky trip reports!

Well, he has photoshop.

I have thursday and friday off next week. I'm also willing to do it in a day if that's your thing.

I climbed that last year.

Black diamond shrikes are good, cheap alpine tools. Probably not the best in the waterfall arena though.

Wasn't aggression listed as one of those traits, Sphinx?

Hey, Sep 19th is talk like a pirate day! Arrr! Swab the poopdeck! Where be me bottle!? Arrrgh..

What's wrong with you, Beck? Crikey!

I thought both Pope's and Mattp's arguments were well thought out, reasonable, and logical. But who's asking Nacho?

wasn't one of the routes on the right side of the wall, around the Umbrella Tree route, descendable via rapping off trees?

If people want to have a civil bolting discussion, its not going to happen over the internet. People are a lot more civil over a pitcher of beer.

This is the most civil bolting debate I've read yet. It probably couldn't be any more civil, minus the personal attacks made by Cracked. I think bolting next to cracks robs future generations of climbers of adventure. Just because you (and I say "you" in a general sense, not pointing at anyone) can't climb it or protect it with a bolt doesn't mean someone else who will come after you, and will be better than you, won't be able to climb it either.

Wow Beck, you're hardcore!

I find endless numbers of cam hooks. I have 4 right now, I've already given away two. Let's see, other than that... I found a gri gri once, complete with locker. Lots of biners' on the tooth, but they all belonged to the party of mountaineers blocking the route ahead of us. Same thing on dierdre, only with nuts.

Where are those pictures taken from? Gendarme?

I think everyone focuses on the "light" instead of the "fast." Every reasonable person knows what their limits are. The way I see it is the faster you are- the lighter you can go. If you are slow person, than perhaps going light means taking the lightest tent. If your fast- perhaps its means taking no tent at all. But if your as slow as hell don't think that not taking bivy gear will make you move ten times faster. Also, the "speed is safety" mantrum, in my opinion, is great for routes with high objective danger. But for the routes that most everybody does around here, going superfast (i.e. simul-climbing, soloing, or going without bivy gear) is most likely slightly more dangerous than taking a regular approach to it. Part of "Light and Fast" tactics is an obvious increase in the risk level.

I suck. Keep your pads on.

there are a couple that are 40-45ft bud! So what you're saying is, Zeke's is going to turn into another sport climbing area? I can't imagine that with all the "development" that's been going on there that they wouldn't have been bolted already, if they were of any quality. I also can't imagine there are very many people out there willing to solo boulders that big, unless they were really easy. I think I will just keep driving to Index.

The best part about Zeke's is the milkshakes, in my opinion.

Perhaps the mighty Zeke's wall preoccupates my vision, but I can't recall any mighty boulders poking their heads above the trees. Nothing, certainly, that could compare.

Bouldering is booooorring. I've never been to Zeke's so I can't truly say, but if I were to head out there I don't think I would be able to stand just dinking around on little boulders when the mighty Zeke's wall towers overhead.

pffffttt..... run it out, bitch!