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They are fun and a great workout but they can throw your technique outta wack.

I have some business down in Olympia soon and would love to hit the sandstone in a few weeks. Do you guys run a Wednesday evening crew pretty much every dry Wednesday?

Great news! ---------------------- Jake, those are some amazing photos. That city park shot is my favorite. You've got some talent.

We'll have at least a few other cc'ers up at world wall 1 (exit 32) tomorrow afternoon in the ballpark of 4pm and climbing until dark. It will probably be too humid and warm for sending harder routes, but it should be a good time. Anyone is welcome to show up. If you get off work later, just show up then. We won't steal any of Brett's draws.

Anyone game to rally a crew of cc'ers to rock climb in the afternoon/ after work at one of the exits this Thursday (5/28)? I was thinking of meeting out at either Nevermind wall (exit 38)the area underneath the trestle (exit 38), the gun show area (exit 38)or World Wall 1 (exit 32) at around 4pm and climbing until dark. People that get off work later could show up as late as they want. We will accomodate you no matter if you climb 5.8 or 5.13. I heading out this Thursday if anyone cares to meet me.

I used one with paint (three story painting help for my cousin) on it for about two years. No problem.

I remember that rock shoes in plastic shells was a somewhat common strategy for folks in the 80's.

Man, you should see the guy ice climb as I have on a Rockies trip.

Sweet pics guys! Who is going to trundle that balanced rock with a few sticks of TNT? I'd register at the U.W. seismology lab.

Marc, thanks for the picture TR. I'd like to see more rock climbing photo TR's like the one you've posted. A lot of rock jocks don't even check this site, but I'm sure they'd like the circus net pics. Is that net still up? I'd love to get on those old J.Sandford routes ropeless. Great TR!

Like was said before, only some of the ovals fit the pulley.

We were going to do some lead fall testing on various keychain biners at the gym last week (above good draws). ---------------- How much smaller is this Metolius biner than the camp nano? I like the camp biners, but the springs have roughly a two year life and then some of them no longer close all the way.

Some years it is only dry from mid August until mid Sept.

Love it!

It's still better than Mountain Hardware, and many other brands that get marketed to us.

You wanna good time??? LET'S TALK 'BOUT THEM BOLTS! it's all about "the aloha". Best laugh of the day Don!

Rock shoes get worn a lot more than crampons on most of the Cascades "First Winter Ascents". Gotta love our climate in WA state! - it defies the seasons.

I think that as we enter the next couple of decades, the face climbing of today and tomorrow at index will really be recognized for how unique and cool it is (if enough people climb it to keep the moss away- which isn't the case today)- Even though "slab" climbing isn't cool these days. Most other granite areas, don't have the micro features to allow pure face climbing at the steeper angles. As for the crack routes at index, the harder crack routes at index just tend to be pinkie jams in pin scars or older quarried flake lieback problems or exfoliated flakes. When we coined the phrase "splitter" a number of years ago, it mean't staight in cracks which index virtual has none of. The index cracks are mostly behind flakes at either the micro or macro level. The term "splitter" has been bastardized badly in the last 10 years or so.

I personally think this is a bad idea because we'd all argue that our own routes (or our friend's routes) should be at the top of said tick lists. We all think our own routes are the hardest in the Cascades and everyone else's are mere cruises.

Brett, Lame about the theft. I had about 10 draws stolen off a project about 12 years ago. Stealing team Petzl draws is pretty stupid. WW1 ain't Vantage. Don't mind all the spray as not a one of em' could redpoint Porn Star. You da' man.

Thanks Bill, great post. We had our credit card compromised in the Seattle area last week. Perhaps it was the same thing.

Did anyone else see the MASSIVE blue banner that was hung from a good ways up the grand wall yesterday? I thought it was a pretty amazing feat, however some of my buddies were less than amused. I wonder how early they had to get up to hang the thing and I wonder how much it weighed?

Speaking of west siders: ......and open the hardest and highest quality routes at that entire area every year since oh... like 1987 with perhaps the exception of an occasionally year thrown in for giggles.

I've seen the same thing happen at Vantage on trad falls on trad gear. ------- I've also had two other buddies fracture out huge sections while falling on trad gear at Vantage- seemingly solid placements. My advice... if you are going to Vantage for your dose of sun, clip bolts and leave everything except the quickdraws at home.

A lot of my buddies climb only in gyms. Surprisingly, the device is rarely seen indoors.