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quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: Pope did it three years ago. Oh no, not I. I ain't climbin' much of anything difficult these days, nothing that a piss ant couldn't hop over anyways. Besides, I ain't a climber. I'm an impresario, least that's what they call me. Uh, that ain't dirty, is it?

I'm no historian, but logarithm stands for "logical arithmetic". Log tables were useful for multiplying large numbers quickly, in the following way: The log of 100 is 2, since 10^2=100. The log of 10,000 is 4 since 10^4=10,000. Now, you can determine what 100 times 10,000 is by adding 4+2=6 and looking 6 up in a log table: log(1,000,000) is 6, and so 100 times 10,000 is 1,000,000. You don't need logs for this simple problem, but imagine two large, nasty numbers that you need to multiply, and imagine that you need your answer to be fairly accurate, but that it's more important that you get it quickly. Without technology, you can look up their logs in a table, add them together, and then find what super large number has this sum of logs as its log. That large number will be the product of the two numbers you intended to multiply quickly. Pretty slick, especially if you have to multiply several big numbers quickly. OK, there you have it. And who said you don't use math in real life!

I just realized.....that was my third post (log 10)!

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: No. Yes. Well, let me think about it for a sec. Yes, he might be. It might be the same Erik Wolfe. But I wouldn't bet my last copy of Royal Robbins' Rockcraft on it, if I were you. Tortoise, hummingbird. Damn. Thanks for your prompt (sincere Pope) and useful (sarcastic Pope) reply. Erik Wolfe (gave himself that last name after "the great American author") used to come down to the wall in a clown outfit and pull down pretty hard. I asked him about the outfit and he told a story about working on the Patch Adams ranch or something. In the middle of his story, some kids came up and requested balloons but he didn't have any. The next time I saw him, he had transformed into a hummingbird. Yeah, no shit, that's what he told me. I sarcastically replied that I was the Easter Bunny, and I think I hurt his feelings. That's the last time I was really sarcastic with somebody, since I went home feeling shitty about insulting him. I don't know....he used to be a cool hippie, back when we did ROTC (that's the only time I climbed with him), but the last time I talked to him he had obviously evolved. He's the guy who coauthored the UW bouldering guide with Scotty Hopkins.

Jeeesh. It's amazing how excited people can get over vertical mud. Hey, does anybody know whether Erik Wolfe is the same Erik Wolfe who used to hang at the U.W. rock? You know, the guy who honestly believed he was Patch Adams (before he morphed into a humming bird or a tortoise or some damn thing)?

Wow....swell to see everybody has been taking it nice and easy. Did anybody climb anything hard?

Goooooood morning! hotcha!

Here's a climber's dog:

quote: Originally posted by To The Top: Hey JKassidy, I probably have played more football than most. All I am saying is Government should stick to the doing what government is supposed to do, like build roads, work on the justice system, manage sewer, and work on the unprofitable infrastructure, not building state of the art stadiums for anyone, especially over paid steriod poppers and owners. I gave up caring about big business sports after I saw the spirit of the game is lost in a boardroom. I say play on but not at the expense of taxpayers, thats all. TTT Government is supposed to.....how about provide a facility where a working class man can enjoy a bunch of beer and spend a good fraction of his paycheck on a Sunday afternoon? There's something to be said for the way watching football provides an escape from the oppession of an industrialized, assembly-line workweek. A guy can punch in at Boeing all week and tolerate how fucked up his life really is, just knowing that he's got Sunday's big game and ESPN to look forward to....ain't that America? Doesn't that little dream (reliving your high school football glory days every Sunday while watching the Hawks) help keep the working man satisfied? Ain't that good for the economy? Ain't that worth funding with tax dollars? I rest my case.

quote: Originally posted by trask: Eat shit Kassidy. I played ball from little league all the way through school. What's lucky about having a losing embarrassment of a football team? It's pathetic. If Paul Allen doesn't care enough to field quality personal and coaches, then I say good riddance. Go Dawgs!!! Yes, I agree. Go Dawgs! Woof! But Mike has a winning tradition...hey, we beat Dallas didn't we? I admit, I'm ready for a winning season.

quote: Originally posted by To The Top: But the taxsprayers just built a whole new stadium for them. Talk about government doing all the wrong things with taxpayers money. There's nothing wrong with a stadium, and I can't think of a better way to spend tax money. A losing football team is better than no football team. Do you have any idea how lucky we are to have an NFL team? Enough with all of the loser talk already. I'm tired of climbers who are still dejected about the fact that they were too wimpy to play high school ball. Go eat your frickin' tofu, have a soya late and brood in some beat cofee joint. I don't care. But either get behind the Hawks or STFU.

quote: Originally posted by Dave Schuldt: AMERICAN FOOTBALL SUCKS. IF THEY DIDN'T STOP THE GAME SO MUCH IT MIGHT BE WORTH WATCHING. I assume you prefer what the rest of the world refers to as football. Yes, soccer has continuous action....90 minutes of continuous running and possession changes, followed by a realization that with a final score of 1-1, some kind of shoot-out must occur. This "action" is sometimes eclipsed by the drama of growing grass and drying billboard paint. At least in "American football", when there is action it is real action, complex action in which an enormous amount of analyzing and odds weighing is put into every play called. In soccer, a bunch of 75-pound Limies run around and wait for a lucky bounce, only to be called "off-sides" (we wouldn't want a game with too much offense, would we now). The breaks in American football allow me to view commercials of busty supermodels selling watery beer. Soccer is so dull you can get a beer at any point and not miss a damn thing. Fun to play, though. And that's my analysis.

Beating the #3 team is quite an accomplishment, unless you're talking WSU. Face the facts, the Cougs don't really belong in the top 10 (as we shall soon see).

quote: Originally posted by trask: quote:Originally posted by allison: OK, I'm all ears: How do you propose we solve the region's transportation problems? I propose we open up all lanes for one. I also believe that as the economy continues to spiral downwards, that more and more people will egress out of this state. Boeing is leaving, Weyerhauser is shutting down and many techy businesses are leaving...probably including most of Microsoft, soon enough. The short of it, wait the bastards out, they will move back to Kalifornia soon enough. I also propose that home-offices should be a mandatory thing. With telecommuting so easy now, there's no reason to be driving into work just to be fucked with by a nerdy supervisor. I home-office and manage to produce much more than I ever did working out of an office. Anyway, this option takes a shitload of cars off the road. Carpool. Yeah right. It does work though. I have other ideas, but no one really wants to hear them. Youbetcha. Last year, my wife taught school half time (which, BTW, is far more than 20 hours a week if you didn't know) and worked out of her home office about 8 hours a week. This year, she works 11 hours (three nights) out of the home office and has quit her teaching job. She's making more money in 11 hours than she was last year with both gigs. It's a damn shame she's not teaching....a damn shame for the public, anyway. She truly reached a lot of kids, but we just couldn't afford to (basically) donate so much of her time to the benefit of the community. Now she's making what she's worth, what the tax payers and legislators were not willing to pay her. I hate to see such talented people leaving education, but I can certainly understand it. BTW, now that she's not commuting, we've cut in half our production of greenhouse gasses. [ 11-16-2002, 11:50 PM: Message edited by: jkassidy ]

quote: Originally posted by Uncle Tricky: Hey Lambone, not saying you're wrong, cause it's all subjective, but I'm curious what single pitch 5.9s in Washington you think are way better than zilla? Yeah, good question! And the North Wall of the Backroom at the Vertical World doesn't qualify here.

...instead here's a totally gay photo of me decked out in spandex .. I'm not going to argue with that summary!

Great to see those Ducks quit! Look out Cougs: you may BE number 3, but we've got #1....and he's coming to Pullman. [ 11-16-2002, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: pope ]

quote: Originally posted by RuMR: quote:Just read the linked story. It is utter horse shit. My buddy Joel and I were out there on that Friday night. We camped on top of the big flat boulder in the quarry that night (we rode a bus from Seattle and were camped at Index for the week). Pope, no comment on the validity of Smoot's story. The only reason i posted that was it mentioned Alan by name and thought that might be where Scottp got his erroneous facts from. Regarding alan, again, he wouldn't do that (grease the crack to stop a first ascent) and wasn't even in the state when it happened. I wasn't commenting on your posting of the link. That was just the first time I'd read the story. I understand how stories evolve as they get passed around, but here we have a story told by an observer. It's difficult to understand why it's less than accurate. I actually enjoyed reading it....let's just not make the mistake of calling it an historical account. It's a nice story, like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: But I'm disappointed in the dumb pro-business stances, like caving into the ski-doo lobby. I guess you get what you vote for, to adapt an old truism.

Just read the linked story. It is utter horse shit. My buddy Joel and I were out there on that Friday night. We camped on top of the big flat boulder in the quarry that night (we rode a bus from Seattle and were camped at Index for the week). On Todd's ascent, just as daylight failed, he actually had the rope through a very high piece. He had no gear on his rack and placed not one piece of pro. Instead, he top-roped up to the crux, fired it, and then moved right to finish on Godzilla. Jeff was belaying, and nobody but Joel, Jeff Smoot and I witnessed the ascent. We heard the swearing, we saw him move right. We heard Todd ask how hard the mantle is, and Jeff told him it was 10c. The ascent was continuous.....a continuous top-rope to the crux, followed by a big, big run-out to the belay (with the Godzilla finish). The other details (of how he placed the gear on this lead) are evidence of Jeff's vivid imagination. I was impressed with the climb, but I was not impressed with the style. Later that year, I witnessed Peter Croft down solo the Nose on Jello Tower. In retrospect, these events both left an enormous impression on me. I chose to accept my limitations and climb in good style.

I almost forgot....the kids, they think the Civic hatchbacks are cool, so they are pretty easy to sell.

A Civic is great. I was capable of following my buddy's 4wd Suzuki overland when we used to sneak around the gate to get into Fossil Rock. A truck is a gas-guzzling pain. When you need to haul something, you can rent a big pick-up from Home Depot for $20 for 70 minutes. This is much cheaper than actually owning one. When you need to get up a difficult road, say to get into to do Dreamer, you can always hitch a ride with an SUV-driving buddy, eh Matt?

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: The ferrata --iron ladders-- were first implaced in the Dolomites during World War I to facilitate battles between Austria and Italy. They allowed bumbly troops to move quickly over technical ground without huge risk. And, to this day, the ferrata still allow bumblies to access the mountains. Oh, I get it. The historical equivalent of today's sport routes!

quote: Originally posted by Dumpster Diver: Drytooling is not a beginner sport. Plus it can be fucking hazardous to your dental work and cranium bone. Get off the hype lawgoddess and quit fondling through magazines so much. Within about 20 minutes I bet you'd find it real boring anyway. Pulling on plastic is more fun. Besides I am with Lambone when he mentions ruining gear and will not improve any ice climbing skills you have. I doubt you'll do much drytooling this winter while out seeking ice anyhow. Usually it's sick shit and doesnt really compare to what the Cascade Crags gym has to offer. The best dry tooling is down at the Rebar!

I took one of them there aid clinics one winter. I liked it so much (lots of cute girls and at least a couple of young, fresh athletic looking fellows) that I decided to follow up with a seminar on what was described in the brochure as "sport climbing". Now, both seminars covered some of the same material, in fact the only difference I could perceive was that in "sport climbing", one must move between bolts (which come at a tedious frequency) by contorting his body into painful positions, instead of just standing up in a sling and clipping. If the contortions fail to provide access to the next clip, simply pull up on a sling and clip the next bolt, but be sure to lower back three feet and provide evidence to the circle of gapers below that you are capable of these contortions. Also, it is important, once the bolt is reached, to shake out for five minutes and communicate with the gapers using a vocabulary that is certain to make them understand that you're playing for keeps up there, and that "sending the sickness" is what they may expect to witness if they are just patient.