Bronco

bye bye dirtneck!

Very positive attitudes will get us to the tippy-top summit!

On a related note, I am putting together a climb up the N. Norwegian Buttress of Mt. Index, partners are needed. I have no aid gear but have walked around the Rainbow store parking lot in Monroe very much which is excellent training for hard aid climbing. My other training consists of sitting at a desk reading stories about climbing and posting crap on this website. Interested partners keep posting on this thread.

I concur

Headgear makes a good handle.

I think I'll state the obvious here and say that out of all the glaciers, that MOFO will not be missed by many climbers.

Most of my experience has been paying not to climb, as in, buying fancy gear and supplies, making a heinous approach and then not climbing anything. I can guarantee I will not climb although paying may be negotiable. Can you make an exception if I pay with cash not to climb? Or is not paying an expedition requirement? Maybe 007 will not pay to climb, but I will pay not to climb, Sam I am.

Yeah, real interesting, IF YOU'RE A COMMIE!!

no, you need a "universal" toe bail, but the rear welt accomodates step ins.

I thought you might bring that up. I have no problem with a bedtime storybook fictional character. I do have a problem with the founder of the USSR and communism having a huge ass statue in the country that fought for some 50 years to defeat the spread of his followers. comprende?

Accoding to my neighbor, deer blood sprinkled around the garden does a good job too.

Ok we are in agreement, do any of you engineers think my 8,000 lb winch would pop the head off that sucker? PBR is for babies. Schmidt Ice is the only way to start your day.

I get the feeling you are a commie. Do you know or care who Vladimir Lenin is? Yeah, I've traveled extensively in Montana, what does that have to do with this discussion? Does that mean it's ok for me to crap in your back yard if I've been doing it for 4 years?

What the hell are you guys thinking? How about a statue of Hilter to make bookends? Maybe we can salvage a nice big statue of Saddam while we're working on it. And by the way, this thing has as much artistic value as a pile of dog crap.

minx, that's pretty rare, you should contact the Dept of Wildlife (425) 775-1311 and report both incidents. On a related note, SUV saves man's life: Deer attacks man in Madison Valley By NICK GEVOCK, Chronicle Staff Writer The hunt is on for a feisty mule deer buck that charged and pummeled an elderly man near Cameron on Monday morning before it was distracted by the sight of its own reflection. A Madison Valley game warden is looking for the four-point buck, which attacked Gene Novikoff at his home south of Cameron. Novikoff had several previous run-ins with the buck this summer, he said Tuesday in a telephone interview, but this time the deer snuck up on him in the driveway. "I tried to get inside the house, but he charged me before I could," he said. "I wrestled with him, which was a mistake -- I'm 80 years old, he's only about 2 or 3." The buck knocked Novikoff over and pummeled him with its front hooves for more than five minutes. Novikoff suffered a broken rib, bruises and scratches on his torso, hands and head. Novikoff feared the deer was going to kill him. He called for help, but his wife was inside the house and didn't hear him. Eventually the deer noticed its own reflection in Novikoff's shiny SUV parked nearby and was intrigued. That gave Novikoff enough time to open the garage door and get inside, he said. "Thank God I had the car cleaned a couple of weeks ago," Novikoff said. "If he hadn't gotten interested in looking at himself, I don't think I would have made it." At that point, Novikoff shot the deer six times with a .22-caliber rifle and it ran off. He said the deer was still hanging around the car and that's why he had to shoot at it. Novikoff's wife took him to the emergency room at the Madison Valley Hospital, where he was treated for lacerations and bruises. Even before the attack, officials had decided the deer needed to be dealt with, said Marc Glines, Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks game warden. The buck had grown so brazen it repeatedly chased anglers on the Madison River and once entered a man's garage. It was likely raised as a pet by someone because the buck shows no fear of humans, Glines said. Once a deer has become so habituated that it will aggressively go after people, it has to be killed, he said. "FWP was worried that a fisherman would trip while getting away, or it would run into a child and someone would get hurt or killed," he said. Novikoff's neighbor has twice doused the deer with pepper spray. But even that painful experience failed to spook the deer away for good. Glines has since loaned a hunting rifle to Novikoff to use if the deer shows up again. Meanwhile, Glines is also looking for the deer, which has proved elusive. "That creature, as nutty as it is, it can sense when he's around," Novikoff said.

Hi Lance, keep coming back, it works!

The N. Peak on Index is around 1500' of "technical" ground. I think Beckey's route description is the most accurate. Just follow the big nests of tat, my broken ego and old trusty rusty ring angles. The traverse route goes up the N. Face of the N. Peak, over the Middle peak and up to the summit of the Main peak. Descend via the East "walk up" route. I haven't done the traverse route. Collin did it in a day last year, you might shoot him an email.

It's a "dry" heat. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLocalStd.asp?loc=uscact12972&seg=LocalWeather&prodgrp=Forecasts&product=Forecast&prodnav=none&pid=none

N. Face route on N. Peak of Index is 5.6. Throw in the Traverse and you can walk off. Better pack a big lunch though.

Yeah, I think J-tree is less than an hour away.

And you can stay in the lookout if it's not full. You should call the Skykomish ranger station and ask them what the deal is with staying up there.

The Evergreen Mountain Lookout hike is one of the best easy hikes around. I think the elevation gain is around 1000' and you get some great views from the top. Starts in a big blue berry patch and wanders up through an old burn, then through old growth. It seems like it was about an hour hike at a leisurely pace. It's off of the Index - Skykomish road. I think FS 65?

what a looser.

I CAN'T THINK!