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You should be fine. I prefer something with some ankle suppport for most of those chossy approaches and in the event you need to don crampons but you should be fine. I'm curious about the booties though, what's the strategy there? Seems like you could get by without them for stream crossings.

I wonder if the DOD was able to keep any statistics from Gitmo detainee waterboarding sessions?

Regarding Avalanche Lake/Huckleberry Creek approach: This route is VERY RUGGED. We approached this route in the hopes of being sheltered from the thunderstorms predicted last friday night. In hindsite, we should have taken the heavier 4 season tent and gone up Froze to Death or not gone at all. After hiking the Mystic lake trail for 6 miles, we encountered approximatly 6 miles of heavy bushwacking and boulder hopping. There could be a sparse trail that we may have lost while crossing snow patches but the cairns don't seem to lead in any consistant direction or route. In the morning of our summitt attempt, the first task was to traverse a large boulderfield with rocks the size of train cars and sherman tanks to get around Avalanche lake. On one occasion a boulder the size of a VW my partner had just hopped accross gave away under my weight and crashed 100' down into the lake taking a lot of other rocks with it leaving me dangling from another precariously perched boulder. After spending a day and a half just to reach the Tempest/Granite Col, our motivation was crushed and we wussed out of what might have been a great snow climb blaming it on the gusting winds which were strong enough to knock you off of a stance and I could just imagine the rope flying all over the place and my partner was pretty anxious to get down to the Mystic Lake trail before dark. Oh, and the bugs at the lakes were incredibly horrible as well. The Granite Peak map we used appeared to indicate a trail but upon closer inspection it is just a dotted line of "recomended travel" not a dashed line of an actual trail like heading up Phantom Creek to gain the Froze to Death Plateau. Conclusion: Huckleberry Creek approach is NOT recomended unless you have a particularly strong appetite for unecesary suffering which I realize is most of us here but a REALLY REALLY strong appetite is what I mean. Probably a Grade IV approach on the Nelson/Potterfield scale. Sitting out a T-Storm on the approach under a boulder.

They are all long and steep, most pick East vs West Rosebud according to if they are driving from Billings or Bozeman. I understand Huckleberry Creek is preffered if you are planing to fish, otherwise it is low enough to make for a long summit day.

I agree with Bug's schedule. I am a climber that typically compressed two or three day climbs into one long day and decided to take it somewhat "easy" on Liberty Ridge over a three day climb in mid June 2003. Day one included an early morning drive from the Seattle area and found us camped near the Carbon by late afternoon. This put us in a position to cross the Carbon in the early morning and be at Thumb rock well before the biggest avalanche I ever hope to see scoured the gully to the west of Lib Ridge and ran well out onto the Carbon from a serac that calved off of the top of the route in the warm afternoon. We had a long afternoon roasting in the sun at Thumb Rock hydrating and resting for a 2 am start on the summit day. Summit day was long with the hike out and drive home. It is still probably my most satisfying climb and I'd do it the same way. You could do it in two days (push to Thumb Rock on day one) but it wouldn't be as fun or safe in my opinion.

MY GOD MAN! WHERE IS YOUR PRE-HEATED THERMOS!!!?

Looks like the FS will be installing and closing a gate at the dam each winter. This adds about 3 miles of hiking/skiing or SNOWMOBILING to get to the ice. A local climbing organization appealed but was recently denied. Stupid enviros.

Sounds good trog. Have you been burninating the peasants lately or just keyboard ninja curap around this place?

I turned on my BCA Tracker tranciever a couple of weeks ago and nothing happened. I put in new batteries (the correct way) and nothing. No lights or nothing. Anyone have this experience? What to do? This thing wasn't used much, it was purchased for my wife who rarely used it. Any ideas on "resetting" it? I just took an internet IQ test and I scored 196. Is that good?

Would you two get a room already? It's pretty clear to all of us that you guys need to release some pent up feelings (that is if you haven't already and that's what this is really about)

You guys sound like a bunch of whiney fucks. As opposed to the rest of the threads on this website?

I wish I could climb something newsworthy. I must agree that it is a little funny this guy takes two days longer than most parties on a moderate route and is raved about in the news like some Vietnam war hero. What's next for him, a winter ascent of MOUNT HOOD? Looks like a good climb, just not newsworthy though.

I wonder what happened to Catturd? Isn't he supposed to chime in about six posts ago about the molecular structure of the concrete's elemental formularation in contrast to the soil compaction ratio per ashphualt's chemical reaction to a illegal millitant sexist pirate? Was he finally banned?

FIGHT THE POWER!!!

HEAVY DEADLIFTS WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THIS TRAINING!!! Seriously they would. So would side bends with a heavy dumbell held in one hand, overhead squats, and medicine ball throws. To pack a hundred pounds 6 miles your body better be ready for some serious impact. You'll want to intensify up your training regimen significantly. A high pain tolerance would be good too.

Cut the asphalt with a saw and pour right up to it. No form between the concrete and asphalt.

IN YOUR DREAMS PINKO!!! I feel sorry for no one. Maybe someone who asks this guy too many questions. Not that guy, the guy at this website: www.askaninja.com

They forgot to mention most of you weenies are also COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZERS!!!

You sound like a gay illegal.

No, like manufacturing. I did both crop and janitorial work when I was a youngster. And the last time I checked, our economy wasn't teetering on either of those sectors.

Those guys probably dont even know what beer pirates drink.

Your first statement sounds a lot like the oppostition to the $50 Vehicle Tabs a few years ago. I don't buy it. You could outsource most of those jobs if need be. I doubt it would produce much more than a hickup in the overall scheme of things. Sure seems like the ratio of naitve born Americans in jail vs the ratio of illegals in Jail would conflict with your second statement. Or is that just because the police and courts are all racist.

It's 5.6d!

"Quote" I think you have your coordinates mixed up. Cooke City is the NE entrance to Yellowstone, which in my opinion, is the best route in Yellowstone as it goes over Beartooth Pass and is the highest maintained road in the US at over 11,000'. It is also your best opportunity to see wolves and bears. The Boiling River is a subset of Mammoth Hotsprings and can be reached either through the NE entrance or the N entrance. Not from the West which is in a town called West Yellowstone and is really far south. It is also a good fall or early spring fishing spot as the "boiling River" flows into the Gardner River and there are huge cutts waiting for your fly.... Ryland_Moore- We entered the park at the NW entrance and then drove to Cooke City which is just outside of the NE entrance of the park. That is the only way to get to Cooke City in the winter time since the other road is closed... John Frieh- I called Barrel mountain shop in Bozeman and they said the road closes in the fist week of April and opens in the Last week of May/Fist week in June. I am going to call my bro and have him check it out... I dont know why it closes... Daniel I think the reason they close popular FS roads this time of year is because the "thaw" is on and traps moisture in the top few inches of the road bed (below would be frozen until later in the spring). Any vehicle travel (or ORV) has the potential for causing relatively extreme damage.

This was from the Gallatin National Forest Avalanche e-mail today: "TRAGIC NEWS Doug Coombs died in an avalanche in La Grave, France yesterday. He was a friend and will be sorely and deeply missed. Doug was a skiing legend who cut his teeth in the extreme skiing game here in Bozeman. I heard about the accident last night and don’t have any more details. He is survived by his wife and son. I’m speechless. " Really sucks.