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quote: Originally posted by klenke: The dolphins would say:Ghsl Glldfjbgg gllldagbgfadd gldd grlesl glefabgghas! Translation:"You land mammals are all wannabes!" I thought that translated as "I dont have hands but watch me catch this salmon!"

quote: Originally posted by verve: There are definitely a shortage of cliffs in the area. Besides the Niagara Escarpment (which contains about 10 separate crags), there really isn't anything climbable except a whole lot of "buildering" and the climbing gyms. Basically you'd have to drive to Kentucky (7-12 hrs aways depending on where along the escarpment you live) to find anything outdoors to climb. Now that the study has been released to prove that climbing is having an impact on the entire cliff face community, hopefully climber's attitudes and practices will change - but basically the damage has already been done at the established crags in the area (and despite what someone wrote earlier, it will not regrow in 10 years)... It'd be a neat trick if we could get hundred year old trees in ten years! Despite all the media attention about this study now, it's quite unlikely that there will be any limits to new route developement. There are so few people in the Ministry of Natural Resources that there isn't anyone to patrol the cliffs or police any of the climbers. The guidebook is also pretty out of date (we've been expecting a new one to come out for years), so it would really be quite difficult to determine whether climbers were even putting up new routes. At Squamish, you really do get 6 inches of thick moss and 7 foot tall trees growing on a route no one has climbed in 10 years. Not to mention slugs, snakes, and bugs of all sorts. Sasquatches have been reported in the North Gully oif the Chief. Despite all the climbers at Squamish the green stuff is winning, and if you ever travel west from Onteario, ms. "verve", you might realize that it would be inappropriate to make conclusions about other crags, based solely on Ontario experience. But what would the dolphins say about all this????

quote: Originally posted by max: www.bivouac.com is ok if you know what you want to climb and have some time and a computer, but it's hardly a good "guide". As far as SW BC being "crag" climbs: Maybe I'm referencing the wrong book. I'm thinking of a light blue book with big, blocky yellow title... Anyways, the book seems to detail some of the cragging areas around sw bc other than squamish. When I say cragging, I mean short climbs, climbs you would wear sneakers to, bring your dog, and maybe bring a beginner. I know the book had a section on yak and some large wall, maybe it said something about the coyote's penis? Yeah, I'm looking for climing near fort St. John? Feel free to make an assumption about where in BC I'd like to climb. If that's too much, I'll choose SW BC. The bottom line is this: I'd like to do some alpine rock climbs in SW BC. I'm looking for a guide book. Thanks. No smart-ass attitude intended. see, you are thinking of Central BC Rock, which is a guide to crag climbing in central BC with a brief mention of the huge walls of Bella Coola (shhhh) thrown in for good measure. the book youi want is this one it has a red spine not a blue one!

XXXXXXXX will be revealed to the masses when I can get my weak ass up a V1+ overhanging hand crack to the moss carpet top out.

www.bivouac.com Or get Bruce Fairley's out-of-date guide (Gordon Soules Books 1986). Frankly i dont get what you mean by calling alpine select "crag" mountaineering? what do you mean by alpine then? And in the BC mts... do you mean Coast Mts, Cascades, Selkirks, Purcells, Valhallas, Monashees, Rockies or what??? BC is twice the size of California, man. Be specific.

For those who don't get the CASBC newsletter: the following info was written by Anders Ourom. April 2002 LOWER MALEMUTE – VOLUNTARY CLOSUREThere has been much work on this over the last few months. We are about to submit a detailed Action Plan for Access to the lower Malemute. We don’t know how long B.C. Rail will take to consider our proposal, what its response will be, whether further discussion will be needed, or how long it may take to implement any agreement. With the arrival of spring, we know that climbers are anxious to get on the lower Malemute. For now, though, we ask that climbers be patient, and not climb there until there is clear information that it is permitted. Anyone climbing at the lower Malemute in the interim may jeopardize access for everyone – if you see or hear of anyone climbing there, remind them that they shouldn’t be, and why. Information signs posted by CASBC and the SRA at lower Malemute access points have sometimes disappeared – let us know if they need replacing. In late December, CASBC and the Squamish Rockclimbers presented a draft plan to B.C. Rail, which showed the location of the tracks, the cliffs, and various climbs. It proposed zoning the cliff by proximity of climbs to the tracks, and by use. This was reviewed by management at B.C. Rail, and in February all parties had a rail tour of the area, and much discussion. B.C. Rail did not rule out climbing at the lower Malemute, and encouraged us to provide a more detailed proposal. John Howe and Kevin McLane have since worked to prepare a plan (pictures, map, signs, etc… , which should soon be sent. We apologize that it has taken longer than foreseen. We also thank Tom Winters, Andy Thom, and other B.C. Rail personnel for their help – Kevin, John, and Neil Bennett have been to the lower Malemute several times for picture-taking and measurements, accompanied by B.C. Rail staff. We cannot predict what the results of all this will be. Certainly if our proposal, or something similar, is accepted it will take some time, and significant work and resources, to implement. Signs, new trails, some barriers, fill, and perhaps ladders will cost a fair bit. Not to mention labour. Likely not less than $10,000, and perhaps significantly more. We have put some thought into fundraising, and also into our strategy if we cannot develop a plan which is acceptable to both B.C. Rail and climbers. CASBC has committed $4,000 of its capital to the project. We may send a special fund-raising mailing to members and supporters, requesting donations and publicity. (Details TBA, but an associated group should be able to issue tax receipts for donations.) There will likely be special events – slide shows, speakers, bake sales, climb-a-thons, raffles – to raise awareness and money. We’ll apply to all likely corporate donors, but to implement at least a partial solution, may need to quickly borrow some money. However, we thought we’d hold off on the fund-raising until we knew what, if anything, we needed.

Ya but they said it was going to rain today, huh.

quote: Originally posted by todd: strange name for a peak - first they name stadiums ___.com, now mountains.... One is called Pik Of The Immortal Glorious Leader Comrade For Life and the other one is called Mount Ain.

I dont know, but there are some people living today in essentially Stone Age conditions like in Papua New Guinea and so on, and they seem to be fairly smart even though I bet some of them don't know the atomic weight of technitium or who won the 1932 World Series. And I bet that some people who know both those facts still bought Enron stocks...

MEEEEOW!!!!

Rah rah RasputinLover of the Russian queenThere was a cat that really was goneRah rah RasputinRussias greatest love machineIt was a shame how he carried on. But when his drinking, and his lusting, and his hunger for power, became known to more and more people, the demand to do something about this outrageous beast became louder and louder.

quote: Originally posted by todd: so what are these peaks called? thanks. www.bivouac.com

how about squamish on saturday?

quote: Originally posted by Richard Pumpington: You guys are freakin hilarious! That's not my site,that's scott'teryx's site! He's the bad ass moderatorover there and the bad ass sub-moderate climber everywhere! You must be confused, this is Scott'teryx's site: www.iamawhinerthatcanthacksomesmoke.com [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: Dru ]

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this area is top secret dont tell anyone!!!

i wouldnae want to hear tha party above me on the Noze of Ell CApppitan! say Whoops while they were trying to shit in a bag...

it aint gonna be me. maybe it will be the mysterious man known only as "muiron saturday", though.

quote: Originally posted by robertm: Dru, last summer I was road tripping by Valhalla Prov. Park and a town called New Denver. There was a cool little crag along the lake (Slocan). Have you ever been out that way? i did 2 routes there and then went swimming.

the newest registered user of summitposer.com is named "muiron saturday" hee hee

there is a crag on top of sumas mountain, there is flashpoint gym in abby, there is all sortsa shit out there. get the mini-guides to chehalis river, hatzic crag, harrison lakes etc at flashpoint, valhalla pure or wherever or wait till i write Fraser Valley Rock for Elaho ... if you can spot you can stand by my pad at lake of the woods in hope...and keep me from hitting the big blocks when i fall off of XXXXXXXXX* again. * censored for reasons of National security.

What was the primary cause of your closest brush with disaster on a mountain? Avalanche/Rock-fall 22% 61 votes Weather 27% 77 votes Equipment Failure 1% 4 votes Inadequate Equipment 2% 6 votes Exceeded Ability 7% 19 votes Route-finding 9% 25 votes Momentary lapse of reason 15% 42 votes Other 3% 9 votes Never had a close call 14% 39 votes 282 total votes I guess "AlpineK's smoking up Muir Hut" falls under "Other".

quote: Originally posted by willstrickland: It's the only one I own. The #5 camalot will cover anything smaller. I've only placed it like 3 times, but it's one of those "when you need it, you REALLY need it" deals. After all, I'm not Chuck Pratt. I bought it after I almost soiled my drawers on Kor-Ingalls when I liebacked the OW section and almost pitched trying to get back in the squeeze chimney. I mostly leave even my #4 Camalot at home when going for alpine routes, #2 and #3 are lighter and all right. see, I dont have any BigBros at all but figure I will get the 2 and 3 but wonder if i should get the 4 or not. also, like i said, would love to shoot a charging grizly with a #4 with the catch removed [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: Dru ]

for ice climbing,or cold weather camping a lexan nalgene plus an O.R. water bottle parka, is a lot lighter and more shockproof than a thermos, and you can boil your water before you go to bed or at the start of the day and it will still be liquid (if not warrm) 8 hours later. My own dirtbag tip, is , shop at "Grocery Outlet" for all your foodstuff needs when you are road tripping. why sometimes they even have BEER! and there is one near every major American climbing area.

gatorade bottle melts when you fill it with boiling water, Nalgene lexan bottle doesnt.

quote: Originally posted by poptart: Are you sure it's not: www.imafuckinglittlepussythatcantstandyouhippiessmokinthekind.weed but my referenced site works, did you click on it?