Where is the Outrage? part II.

[Fairweather]

With all the paranoid lefties here on spray howling about perceived government intrusions into their privacy, I am surprised that no one is outraged about The Campaign Finance Reform Act. This bill denies "special interests" the right to campaign/lobby/advertise 30 days prior to an election. Keep in mind that a "special interest" group covers the political spectrum from The NRA to The Sierra Club, to Emily's List, to AARP.

 

Only "the media" will be able to feed us the information we need about a particular candidate or issue. And we all know how responsible and un-biased the media is.

 

So much for freedom of speech. Signing this Democrat inspired bill (and yes, John Mcain is a Democrat) in the stupidest thing GW has done.

[allthumbs]

I've had all I can take from paranoid flakes...everyone is out to get them. Maybe we should send them each a copy of Conspiracy Theory - that ought to put them right over the top and straight into the looney basket!

 

[AlpineK]

Hmm. I seem to remember reading about lots of right wing paranoid fucks living in some shack and holding off the FBI with a huge supply of guns.

 

Didn't the government building in Oklahoma City get blown up by an exmilitary right wing wacco.

 

You right wing guys have plenty of paranoid fucks on your side.

 

 

[allthumbs]

Agreed, we do at that. I'm talking about paranoia in general; no party lines.

[AlpineK]

Well it seems like both sides should be against Poindexter's new agency. Most folks on the right don't want information collected about whether or not they own guns. Most folks on the left think about McCarthyism.

[freeclimb9]

fairweather,

you're naive to assume any particular political flavor for people distrustful of untrustworthy goverment employees.

[allison]

I'm pretty outraged that I worked all day on some stupid rap concert and came home to this....you people were supposed to be hard at work coming up with some entertaining reading for me!

[AlpineK]

I'm pretty outraged that I worked all day on some stupid rap concert and came home to this....

 

Ah yes why should a woman like Allison, with such refined tastes, be subject to such vile forms of entertainment. The Theatre is where she belongs *

 

*Stick your nose up in the air, ram something up your ass, and repeat the sentences in green with a super snotty British accent.

[Fairweather]

Actually, I too am outraged by the new privacy intrusions as I've stated in earlier threads. I am questioning the lack of similar outrage re: Campain Finance Reform which, as written, is at least as great an offense to personal liberty. Campaign finance Reform, and the free speech infringements therein, seems to be more palatable to the liberals here for some reason. Do they support the curtailment of SOME liberties they don't think citizens "deserve", but cry outrage (!) when their favorites are threatened?

[allison]

I roll my eyes in the general direction of anyone who might think me a dilletante. Give me a freaking break. Oh, and a beer, while you're up.

[Groundfall_Crater]

allison wrote- "I roll my eyes in the general direction of anyone who might think me a dilletante. Give me a freaking break. Oh, and a beer, while you're up. "

 

We pee on you from great heights.

 

[sk]

pardon my ignorance but what is a "dilletante"???

[iain]

I think it is "dilettante", someone who is a connoisseur of something, like wine or art.

[RobBob]

Dilettante (note spelling )-

 

A dabbler in the arts.

 

Maybe she meant to say she was a Dilbert.

[allthumbs]

maybe she meant she was a dildo

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

Or a dill pickle? Or delusional? Or diligent? A dishwasher? Disco Stu? Dinty Moore beef stew?

[Off_White]

Well, I'm outraged that ya'll have hijacked us into character assasination.

 

Anyway, yes Fairweather, I'm not in favor of the recent campaign finance reform, but I don't know that I embrace the notion that dollars equal speech. In any case, it feels less of a threat to individual liberty than the current information insanity being railed against elsewhere. Campaign finance reform is in theory intended to diffuse power, while the other issue is working to concentrate it in particular entities, so this is why it doesn't make me as nervous. You as an individual are still free to give your money to the candidate of your choice.

[North_by_Northwest]

There are all kinds of paranoid people out there, but none of them ever predict any of the big things that actually happen, they just go on about a lot of stuff that turns out to be meaningless. Paranoia is a waste of time, when something gets ya you won't see it coming anyway. Being well informed and concerned is good, but being scared of shadows is a waste of time and energy.

 

Hey OW who's quote is on your autosig, or is it yours?

[Greg_W]

You're missing the point that CFR PROHIBITS speech prior to an election. The money issue aside, this is a huge problem for me. I have to ask myself why incumbent candidates would vote to prohibit advocacy adds in the final days of a campaign. Answer: because they know that that is the only way that their opponents, most relatively unknown and unproven, get in front of voters. This is a way to give incumbents an advantage in getting THEIR message out just prior to an election.

[Off_White]

NxNW: The quote came from some comic in The Funny Times that struck me awhile back. I'm overdue for an autsig remodel though, now that you mention it.

[sk]

There are all kinds of paranoid people out there, but none of them ever predict any of the big things that actually happen, they just go on about a lot of stuff that turns out to be meaningless. Paranoia is a waste of time, when something gets ya you won't see it coming anyway. Being well informed and concerned is good, but being scared of shadows is a waste of time and energy.

 

MOST WELL SAID

[Greg_W]

There are all kinds of paranoid people out there, but none of them ever predict any of the big things that actually happen, they just go on about a lot of stuff that turns out to be meaningless. Paranoia is a waste of time, when something gets ya you won't see it coming anyway. Being well informed and concerned is good, but being scared of shadows is a waste of time and energy.

 

Where do you draw the line between paranoia and just taking precautions? I carry a gun when I am out in public with my family. In light of the potential danger of someone trying to steal my daughter, am I being paranoid or just cautious?

[Off_White]

Good argument Greg, I buy it. Sorry to admit it, but I'm not all that familiar with this piece of legislation. On the surface it sounds like this bill will be toast when it hits the courts. Three cheers for checks and balances. I'll take a look at the bill a little later. Thanks.

[sk]

greg, you are a paranoid freak! of course I have boys and two of them to boot... if they were in the car with a loaded wepon it is far more likely that one of my children would wind up dead than that some one would nab them.

 

I NEVER LET THEM OUT OF MY SITE>>>NEVER

Edited December 3, 2002 by Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer

[Greg_W]

SK; I too never let my daughter out of my sight, or reach for that matter. However, the unexpected CAN happen - toddlers run ahead and maybe don't listen or react fast enough. I just feel that it is good to be a bit better prepared. If you had a loaded weapon in the car, I would assume your boys would be strapped into proper child-restraint devices as approved by the NTSB, NHTA, and AAA.