Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by iain: Are you referring to: "Just checking up on the state of the kingdom" Wool ewe cut it out with the ba-a-a-ad jokes and sheep attempts at humor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 where the hell was that picture taken? the everglades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Wool ewe cut it out with the ba-a-a-ad jokes and sheep attempts at humor? Wow put some time into that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I still like these Scott'tryx woollies: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 hmm those look a bit gamey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dru: Yeah thats some smartwool right there. Sort of like the giant wooden rabbit in Holy Grail. RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by iain: You need the Flash authoring application to create this site. Dreamweaver won't cut it, but behaves well when adding flash content to your site. Personally I find flash stuff cute the first few times I use it, but annoying after that. It doesn't take too long once you have a handle on the Flash environment, and that doesn't take too long either. So that "Flash authoring application" would be the Macromedia shiznit, I guess. Typically, bleeding edge crap added into a website sucks unless it enhances transfer of information, IMO. I've avoided learning a lot of stuff just for that reason. But the smartwool site made me realize some benefits for companies that offer limited and boring products. The Flash made the visit to smartwool.com memorable (in a positive sense). Only Heidi Klum and her like modeling the underwear and socks would be more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offwidthclimber Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 freeclimb9, being a web developer, i'd estimate that a site like smartwool.com would probably take a competent web team at least a month to build. complex projects like that take can take longer, however. it just depends on the firm. the cost of having a site like that built professional would run in the tens of thousands of dollars, especially for that caliber of work. like iain said, the site was built in flash. it probably also has some back end programming for the product listings and retail locator. it's a nice site, although i get tired of that little bastard chasing my mouse back and forth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 This will do the job: I agree w/ you on Flash. Now that most browsers come with the ability for flash content, it becomes a lot more useful. Unfortunately there are a lot of modem users still out there who have to dl the .swf file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offwidthclimber Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 not to mention that there are a lot of dipshit designers out there who are more interested in playing with bells and whistles than effectively communicating a brand or product. flash can be a great enhancement, but i'd still say that 75% of people still use it badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 friends don't let friends use flash. actually we just had an interactive trail map made with flash, it is pretty sweet. it does have its applications, like great little flash movies like the mystery of britney spears breasts. or the gonads and strife, thats good shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by gapertimmy: friends don't let friends use flash. Flash is great! Designers are not. Flash gives the web potential to be just about anything, very few restrictions. However, such lack of restrictions and style/interface is what can make using it so frustrating. (why did that menu stick it's tounge out at me and dissapear ) Offwidthclimber is right in that using flash is way sexier than plain ol' images. People can have no clue of useability, but can still make stuff that "marketing likes!" There is a not so fine line between what is "usable fine art" and "crap". I was a flash developer for a company that produced online training courses, where we made small, modem friendly animations that conveyed ideas far clearer to Cleutus (learning about forklifts) than text ever could. So there are applications beyond cute/annoying stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offwidthclimber Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 well put dbb. flash is a great resource for tutorials, displaying product features, etc - specific targeted uses that will benefit from interactivity, motion and sound. with a handful of limited exceptions, whole flash sites are generally overkill. at least people are finally getting over flash intros. now if designers would just stop resizing my fucking browser and using so many damn popups... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I think wool is better than synthetics for long underwear, though I am not sure you have to spring for the "smartwool." I get whatever is cheap at www.christianoutdoorwear.com (sierratradingpost) and it seems to work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrogers Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I used to work with them and know that they're too cheap to pay a team of designers to build that site. I'm sure it was done by their in-house web monkey. You can usually pick up SmartWool NTS cheap at the end of the winter season at REI- shit won't win any fashion awards, but it sure does work well. I have some of their gloves and wouldn't reccomend them for our wet climate. They work great in cold, dry places like Steamboat (where SmartWool is based), but wet our real quick like in our typical 30 and "snowing" winters. Free is free though. They also had a buy one get one on socks not so long ago. Makes the hefty price seem a little less steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Freeclimb: If you're a connoisseur of flash sites, this is one of my favorites: http://www.altrec.com/features/crownofafrica/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klar404 Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 this is real sweet for flash http://www.fakepilot.com/frameset.htm or for humor try this link http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Cool sites esp. fakepilot. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted November 23, 2002 Author Share Posted November 23, 2002 I'm impressed with the smartwool.com website. Clever way to portray a dropdown menu. I guess it's Flash from the source. What does it take in terms of time to create such a site? Could Dreamweaver be the product used? Any other insights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Speaking of Smartwool, does anyone out there (besides, of course, world famous alpinist and spokesmodel Ed Viesturs) have any experience with the stuff? Is it indeed superior to its synthetic cousins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 It's pricey, but good shit, DFA. Worth ten bucks? I dunno, but I have half a dozen pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted November 23, 2002 Author Share Posted November 23, 2002 DFA, I've got a bunch of their socks, and they're very good. I've tried on their shirts and tights, and they look excellent. Realize though, that wool is not as durable as some synthetics. But what about the website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 where did the thread with the picture of the sheep and the castle go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Hmm, thanks for the beta. As for the website, DFA is unschooled in the arcana of the computer arts. Perhaps Iain, computer geek and wiseacre extraordinaire, has some web info for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 You need the Flash authoring application to create this site. Dreamweaver won't cut it, but behaves well when adding flash content to your site. Personally I find flash stuff cute the first few times I use it, but annoying after that. It doesn't take too long once you have a handle on the Flash environment, and that doesn't take too long either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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