telemarker Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Why do people insist they've, "never fallen on their cam." I mean who the hell cares? Gear is meant to arrest falls, so it's okay to fall on your cam and still sell it later. Let me guess, you've also never weighted your rope, only lightly placed that stopper, only held that ice screw next to the ice. C'mon man! Quote
sobo Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Of all the shit I've gone through this past Christmas break with my ex, the kids, and not getting to see them, that was something that finally made me laugh. I mean really laugh. Thanks for that, John. You're a good man. Quote
rob Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I tried to sell a set of used cams on a climbers list @ work, and the owner of the list asked me not to ever do that again, since "used cams are super dangerous." Quote
montypiton Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 "used cams are super dangerous" -- he never uses a cam more than once? Now THATS funny... Quote
sobo Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 "used cams are super dangerous" -- he never uses a cam more than once? Now THATS funny...Wow, must be nice to be that fuq'n rich... Hey rob, tell that list owner he's a douchebag! Quote
billcoe Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I believe that used cams, in fact, Metolius U shaped cams specifically, consistently represent the best gear buy today. For some reason everyone thinks that the Camalots should sell used for about the price you can get them new, sometimes even more - while the Metolius cams, which are friggan awesome and also last forever, sell used for a steep discount. There isn't enough Mastercams to be reliably purchased so I'd exclude them form that statement, they are new enough to still sell at a premium when used. However, both the Metolius U stem - the 3 and 4 cams units, are very plentiful on the secondary market. Bought my kid some used gear for Christmas this year. Tossed him some of the 18 Wild Country Helium's that David Hiers sold which looked brand new ($4 each) that he'd advertised months back in the yard sale on this site. I also got the lad a set of used (old style, not the DAT) Metolius 4 cam units. The seller had said they were in "good condition": they weren't. He never mentioned any "falls". But I got a hell of a deal, and no one wanted them as they didn't have any slings. After I got them I simply sent them to Metolius for the factory to sew new slings on. $3 per sling is the charge. They also replaced 2 of the U shaped wires as well ($8.00 per unit) because they had bends inhibiting smooth functioning, most likely from falls over edges. The business end of the cams, the cams themselves, looked great, and they had featured prominently in the ebay sale photo. Wow, those beater things came back, clean, lubed, and all shiny polished and new looking. Literally brand new. The boy thought they were brand new, and was shocked that they were used and also at how cheap I'd gotten them for. Damned impressive. Metolius for the win! ...anyway, guess I'd better tell him not to fall on them now. Quote
Plaidman Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 ...anyway, guess I'd better tell him not to fall on them now. That will help his head when he is leading that 5.10 crux!! Quote
boadman Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I think that a lot of "climbers" don't actually ever fall on their gear. Quote
denalidave Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I've got some "almost new" TP, only used once. Of course, NO FALLS on it either. Quote
sobo Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Is that like "almost new" French Army rifles? Never fired, and only dropped once... Quote
billcoe Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I've got some "almost new" TP, only used once. Of course, NO FALLS on it either. If it was Metolius brand toilet paper you could send that shit back and magically get a perfect condition brand new roll of clean white sparkling Charmin' back.... ...or as it's not used climbing gear and thus unsafe, you could list it on Rob's list @ work for a low low price.... Quote
chirp Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I've got some "almost new" TP, only used once. Of course, NO FALLS on it either. If it was Metolius brand toilet paper you could send that shit back and magically get a perfect condition brand new roll of clean white sparkling Sharmin' back.... ...or as it's not used climbing gear and thus unsafe, you could list it on Rob's list @ work for a low low price.... Quote
Jens Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 My pet peeve is people selling stuff from a 1,000 miles away. Use eBay if you live more than two hours from our namesake range. Quote
chris54 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I like the " only used a few times" AKA beat to hell. Or the guy that says "great condition" then listed nine things wrong with the item. Quote
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