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[Fairweather]

Solyndra.

 

 

 

Fast and Furious.

 

 

 

John Corzine.

 

 

 

 

Please do not discuss these issues while you're watching Herman gettin his knobbin.

 

 

 

 

As you were...

[ivan]

Solyndra.

 

meh. havne't seen enough to make me think its far out of bounds - the idea was to stoke green energy, so of course it'd involve handing out cash. is there strong evidence it was handed out to folks for purely corrupt purposes? was bho given these dudes cash that they were kicking back? or was he guilty of no more than false hopes that this would help get folks back to work, like a president should?

 

Fast and Furious.

 

sounds sketchy and stupid for sure. if you have eric holder's head on a spike will your side stop filibustering every goddamn thing that comes down the pike?

 

 

John Corzine.

never heard of him - you can have his head too if you wanna quit bitch'n 'bout 'bamacare and maybe throw in support for a public option

 

 

 

Please do not discuss these issues while you're watching Herman gettin his knob on.

 

 

 

 

As you were...

herman's super - can you please keep him on your a-team as long as possible, please?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Solyndra.

 

meh. havne't seen enough to make me think its far out of bounds - the idea was to stoke green energy, so of course it'd involve handing out cash. is there strong evidence it was handed out to folks for purely corrupt purposes? was bho given these dudes cash that they were kicking back? or was he guilty of no more than false hopes that this would help get folks back to work, like a president should?

 

 

Ivan's waiting for all the evidence to surface first. Don't rush to judgement!!!

 

 

[olyclimber]

or worse....it could have been SOCIALISM IN ACTION.

 

Lets see if he floats.

[ivan]

Solyndra.

 

meh. havne't seen enough to make me think its far out of bounds - the idea was to stoke green energy, so of course it'd involve handing out cash. is there strong evidence it was handed out to folks for purely corrupt purposes? was bho given these dudes cash that they were kicking back? or was he guilty of no more than false hopes that this would help get folks back to work, like a president should?

 

 

Ivan's waiting for all the evidence to surface first. Don't rush to judgement!!!

 

hell, i served on a jury, i can rush to judgement just fine - what i've seen in my less than hardcore following of the story hasn't set me off - what did i miss?

[JosephH]

Wait, am I supposed to equate a democratic, failed, lobbied solar attempt or Corzine's bad judgment with the level of corruption involved with Cheney's 'energy policy' or the choices of legions of republican board directors and executives on Wall St. Jesus, as scandals go those are lamer than the republican field itself. Rove is going to have to role up his sleeves and dig deeper if he wants to do any real damage. Maybe he's getting lazy if this is the best he can do.

[prole]

Fast and Furious.

 

Is there a problem here?

 

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[tvashtarkatena]

The three examples provided by the OP actually serve to bolster government credibility: fucks ups happened, as they always do - but this administration is investigating them in an effort to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

 

I'm sure the Hermanator, given his recent behavior, would do the same.

 

Unless the OPs point (that's usually hard to tease out with this particular individual) is that government is never supposed to fuck up. Good luck wit dat.

 

As compared to actions the OP vehemently supported...Iraq comes to mind, among others, these mistakes constitute rather small potatoes.

 

I don't suppose a presidential candidate outright lying about his prior illegal sexual discrimination, then crying 'racial discrimination!' when asked simple clarifying, fact finding questions about these actual events (not allegations), strikes this poster as an area of concern about that candidate's fitness to govern. Apparently, the unrelated mistakes of others makes this no big deal.

 

No big deal unless you're one of the millions of women who've been sexually harassed, that is. Fuck those whiny bitches, right?

 

Yup. That has been one of the mainstays of the GOP agenda. Fucking over women.

 

Mississippi, anyone?

 

 

[AlpineK]

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[Off_White]

Hey FW, here's your Solyndra, put into perspective by Krugman: (I lifted the whole text from NYT and put it here so no one has to potentially deal with their paywall)

 

Here Comes the Sun

By PAUL KRUGMAN

 

For decades the story of technology has been dominated, in the popular mind and to a large extent in reality, by computing and the things you can do with it. Moore’s Law — in which the price of computing power falls roughly 50 percent every 18 months — has powered an ever-expanding range of applications, from faxes to Facebook.

 

Our mastery of the material world, on the other hand, has advanced much more slowly. The sources of energy, the way we move stuff around, are much the same as they were a generation ago.

 

But that may be about to change. We are, or at least we should be, on the cusp of an energy transformation, driven by the rapidly falling cost of solar power. That’s right, solar power.

 

If that surprises you, if you still think of solar power as some kind of hippie fantasy, blame our fossilized political system, in which fossil fuel producers have both powerful political allies and a powerful propaganda machine that denigrates alternatives.

 

Speaking of propaganda: Before I get to solar, let’s talk briefly about hydraulic fracturing, a k a fracking.

 

Fracking — injecting high-pressure fluid into rocks deep underground, inducing the release of fossil fuels — is an impressive technology. But it’s also a technology that imposes large costs on the public. We know that it produces toxic (and radioactive) wastewater that contaminates drinking water; there is reason to suspect, despite industry denials, that it also contaminates groundwater; and the heavy trucking required for fracking inflicts major damage on roads.

 

Economics 101 tells us that an industry imposing large costs on third parties should be required to “internalize” those costs — that is, to pay for the damage it inflicts, treating that damage as a cost of production. Fracking might still be worth doing given those costs. But no industry should be held harmless from its impacts on the environment and the nation’s infrastructure.

 

Yet what the industry and its defenders demand is, of course, precisely that it be let off the hook for the damage it causes. Why? Because we need that energy! For example, the industry-backed organization energyfromshale.org declares that “there are only two sides in the debate: those who want our oil and natural resources developed in a safe and responsible way; and those who don’t want our oil and natural gas resources developed at all.”

 

So it’s worth pointing out that special treatment for fracking makes a mockery of free-market principles. Pro-fracking politicians claim to be against subsidies, yet letting an industry impose costs without paying compensation is in effect a huge subsidy. They say they oppose having the government “pick winners,” yet they demand special treatment for this industry precisely because they claim it will be a winner.

 

And now for something completely different: the success story you haven’t heard about.

 

These days, mention solar power and you’ll probably hear cries of “Solyndra!” Republicans have tried to make the failed solar panel company both a symbol of government waste — although claims of a major scandal are nonsense — and a stick with which to beat renewable energy.

 

But Solyndra’s failure was actually caused by technological success: the price of solar panels is dropping fast, and Solyndra couldn’t keep up with the competition. In fact, progress in solar panels has been so dramatic and sustained that, as a blog post at Scientific American put it, “there’s now frequent talk of a ‘Moore’s law’ in solar energy,” with prices adjusted for inflation falling around 7 percent a year.

 

This has already led to rapid growth in solar installations, but even more change may be just around the corner. If the downward trend continues — and if anything it seems to be accelerating — we’re just a few years from the point at which electricity from solar panels becomes cheaper than electricity generated by burning coal.

 

And if we priced coal-fired power right, taking into account the huge health and other costs it imposes, it’s likely that we would already have passed that tipping point.

 

But will our political system delay the energy transformation now within reach?

 

Let’s face it: a large part of our political class, including essentially the entire G.O.P., is deeply invested in an energy sector dominated by fossil fuels, and actively hostile to alternatives. This political class will do everything it can to ensure subsidies for the extraction and use of fossil fuels, directly with taxpayers’ money and indirectly by letting the industry off the hook for environmental costs, while ridiculing technologies like solar.

 

So what you need to know is that nothing you hear from these people is true. Fracking is not a dream come true; solar is now cost-effective. Here comes the sun, if we’re willing to let it in.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

"Proof" by assertion.