j_b Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Just because they have lied to us doesn't mean every story they tell has an equal chance of being false. Considering the likely history of spy-ops regarding OBL, the blowback nature of the rise of islamic fundies, etc you certainly chose quite some tangled web to do away with your ability to think critically. Quote
billcoe Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 You talking about this? http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-government-contractor-claims-al-qaeda-has-confirmed-bin-laden-fairytale.html "Friday, May 6, 2011 One of the groups behind the endless fake Bin Laden tapes and a contractor for the US government tells us that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the death of Osama. Although Bin Laden has been dead since 2001, the fact the US government is having to rely on the notorious SITE Institute to prop up the crumbling Bin Laden fable that was manufactured on Sunday night shows how desperate the White House has become in its bid to sell the public on more terror fearmongering. “Al Qaeda released a statement on jihadist forums confirming the death of its leader, Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant messages,” reports CNN. “The statement, translated by SITE, lauded the late militant, threatened to take action against the United States, and urged Pakistanis to “rise up and revolt.” SITE’s claim that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the official White House version of events concerning the death of Bin Laden, thereby lending presumed credence to a narrative that has quickly attracted derision and suspicion even amongst mainstream journalists, is about as credible as if Barney the Purple Dinosaur had made a statement assuring us that Osama was killed on Sunday evening. SITE is a US military-industrial complex front and has been caught red-handed releasing fake Al-Qaeda tapes on numerous occasions. The SITE organization is nothing more than a contractor for the U.S. government, receiving some $500,000 a year annually from Uncle Sam, the majority of which is paid for by U.S. taxpayers. The group was founded by Rita Katz, the daughter of an executed Israeli spy. Katz has worked closely with the Department of Justice, Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Homeland Security. SITE’s website content was found to be largely copied from the U.S. State Department. “SITE’s “Terrorism Library, on cursory investigation, looks to be a straight data scrape from the U.S. Department of State’s Patterns of Global Terrorism – 2003, Appendix B,” notes SourceWatch. This organization is nothing more than a dummy group which acts as a conduit for Pentagon propaganda. Everything about SITE indicates that it is nothing more than a trojan horse that is regularly used by the military-industrial complex to release staged Al-Qaeda videotapes as part of the ongoing propaganda offensive to justify the brutal, pointless and manufactured war on terror." Quote
G-spotter Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Just because they have lied to us doesn't mean every story they tell has an equal chance of being false. Yes it does. The corollary of the constant rejection of belief in the dominant paradigm is that you are usually wrong. Quote
E-rock Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Yes: internet = retard I am sure you are more tolerant than you are coming across, right now. ya think? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Just because they have lied to us doesn't mean every story they tell has an equal chance of being false. Yes it does. The corollary of the constant rejection of belief in the dominant paradigm is that you are usually wrong. You are going to need to dumb-down that statement quite a bit in order for it to be even partially intelligible to boner. Quote
rob Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 You talking about this? http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-government-contractor-claims-al-qaeda-has-confirmed-bin-laden-fairytale.html "Friday, May 6, 2011 One of the groups behind the endless fake Bin Laden tapes and a contractor for the US government tells us that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the death of Osama. Although Bin Laden has been dead since 2001, the fact the US government is having to rely on the notorious SITE Institute to prop up the crumbling Bin Laden fable that was manufactured on Sunday night shows how desperate the White House has become in its bid to sell the public on more terror fearmongering. “Al Qaeda released a statement on jihadist forums confirming the death of its leader, Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant messages,” reports CNN. “The statement, translated by SITE, lauded the late militant, threatened to take action against the United States, and urged Pakistanis to “rise up and revolt.” SITE’s claim that “Al-Qaeda” has confirmed the official White House version of events concerning the death of Bin Laden, thereby lending presumed credence to a narrative that has quickly attracted derision and suspicion even amongst mainstream journalists, is about as credible as if Barney the Purple Dinosaur had made a statement assuring us that Osama was killed on Sunday evening. SITE is a US military-industrial complex front and has been caught red-handed releasing fake Al-Qaeda tapes on numerous occasions. The SITE organization is nothing more than a contractor for the U.S. government, receiving some $500,000 a year annually from Uncle Sam, the majority of which is paid for by U.S. taxpayers. The group was founded by Rita Katz, the daughter of an executed Israeli spy. Katz has worked closely with the Department of Justice, Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Homeland Security. SITE’s website content was found to be largely copied from the U.S. State Department. “SITE’s “Terrorism Library, on cursory investigation, looks to be a straight data scrape from the U.S. Department of State’s Patterns of Global Terrorism – 2003, Appendix B,” notes SourceWatch. This organization is nothing more than a dummy group which acts as a conduit for Pentagon propaganda. Everything about SITE indicates that it is nothing more than a trojan horse that is regularly used by the military-industrial complex to release staged Al-Qaeda videotapes as part of the ongoing propaganda offensive to justify the brutal, pointless and manufactured war on terror." OMG, prison planet? You and my father would totally get along. He's hopelessly gullible, too. Quote
E-rock Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I love how people are so skeptical of the mainstream media/medical establishment/big-brother of their choosing, but blindly embrace every online crackpot with a blog who posts baseless claims to fulfill his personal dilusions of grandeur. So "critical" Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 OMG, prison planet? You and my father would totally get along. He's hopelessly gullible, too. Singling out and deriding prison planet isn't really necessary, the non-existence of al-Qaeda has been confirmed by experts, mainstream and otherwise, for years. Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 It's a pretty straightforward argument... [video:youtube] Quote
rob Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 bin laden has been dead for 10 years! It's all a conspiracy!!!! Quote
Jim Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I love how people are so skeptical of the mainstream media/medical establishment/big-brother of their choosing, but blindly embrace every online crackpot with a blog who posts baseless claims to fulfill his personal dilusions of grandeur. So "critical" Thank you. The release of President Obama's birth certificate last week apparently tamped down -- to a large degree -- skeptics who questioned whether he could legally serve as president because they said he wasn't a natural-born citizen. Now, a surprisingly diverse crop of people are questioning whether Osama bin Laden is actually dead. Some media outlets and bloggers are calling them "deathers." Their claims follow a wide range: Some believe that the world's most-wanted terrorist was not the man killed Sunday, others think bin Laden is dead but was killed many years ago, and still others believe that the September 11 mastermind is alive -- and secretly being interrogated. http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/05/birthers.deathers/index.html?hpt=Sbin Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 bin laden has been dead for 10 years! It's all a conspiracy!!!! No, but he was always more neocon fabrication and paranoid fantasy than anything else. The post-Cold War diversion through the Funhouse was great. It's over. Let's get back to solving real problems. Quote
rob Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 bin laden has been dead for 10 years! It's all a conspiracy!!!! No, but he was always more neocon fabrication and paranoid fantasy than anything else. The post-Cold War diversion through the Funhouse was great. It's over. Let's get back to solving real problems. Oh, that's right. Because he wasn't responsible for 9/11. That was an inside job. I keep forgetting that! Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 bin laden has been dead for 10 years! It's all a conspiracy!!!! No, but he was always more neocon fabrication and paranoid fantasy than anything else. The post-Cold War diversion through the Funhouse was great. It's over. Let's get back to solving real problems. Oh, that's right. Because he wasn't responsible for 9/11. That was an inside job. I keep forgetting that! Yeah and OBL was not a "real problem". Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 He was a criminal. The Bush Administration turned him into the Second Coming of Lucifer, spent trillions, and couldn't even get a third Republican term for it. The country's finances are in the shitter and we've bankrupted a couple of generations for a trustafarian dirtbag who got lucky. Whoops? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 The Bush Administration turned him into the Second Coming of Lucifer, spent trillions, and couldn't even get a third Republican term for it... You want to stand by that last assertion? Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 And what, exactly was bin Laden's role in 9/11 again? Quote
rob Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 And what, exactly was bin Laden's role in 9/11 again? We'll never know now, will we???? I agree, he was definitely used as a medium by our government to incite fear. We like to keep our citizens living in fear. But that doesn't mean he still didn't deserve a good killin'. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 And what, exactly was bin Laden's role in 9/11 again? We'll never know now, will we???? The raid of his compound did yield a few gigabytes of data... Quote
ivan Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Let's get back to solving real problems. when on earth were we ever doing THAT? Quote
prole Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I agree, he was definitely used as a medium by our government to incite fear. We like to keep our citizens living in fear. But that doesn't mean he still didn't deserve a good killin'. Maybe. But what we didn't deserve was a lost decade or two (or three) so slimy shitheel politicians and defense contractors could make their careers inflating a demonic blowup doll. Now the "deathers" want to prolong this crap?! Let's put it to bed already and stop wasting our energy celebrating or playing Encyclopedia Brown. Quote
kevbone Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 And what, exactly was bin Laden's role in 9/11 again? Because you need a bad guy to have a war. Quote
kevbone Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 bin laden has been dead for 10 years! It's all a conspiracy!!!! Pretty much. Quote
rob Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 And what, exactly was bin Laden's role in 9/11 again? Because you need a bad guy to have a war. You're just pissed because you're gonna have to close down the vancouver branch of the OBL fan-club Quote
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