Choada_Boy Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Please explain "irony" to the people in Fukushima. Quote
j_b Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I guess it could also be that choada thinks snark is strictly verboten when Japanese mothers look for their dead children. Of course, that would be kind of rich considering Choada's standing as a shining example of cultural sensitivity, but whatever .. Quote
j_b Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) Please explain "irony" to the people in Fukushima. Â dude, nobody in Fukushima gives a shit about irony right now. As a matter of a fact, I am not addressing them, I'm talking to you moron! Edited March 15, 2011 by j_b Quote
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 So what's the homeopathic remedy for radiation poisoning? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) does '-shima' mean 'someday to be flattened quickly' in Japanese? Edited March 15, 2011 by tvashtarkatena Quote
j_b Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 So what's the homeopathic remedy for radiation poisoning? Â Keep repeating that "nuclear energy is an essential part of our future". It makes everything better before the next election cycle. Guaranteed. Quote
kevbone Posted March 15, 2011 Author Posted March 15, 2011 A question for all those who think nuclear is the way. What do we do with the waste? Quote
selkirk Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Basically everything humans do is fucked up. Off hand I'd say nuke power is slightly less fucked up than burning coal. Over the long run that is.  I had a chance to tour the INEL a few years ago. I thought it was awfully funny that they were powering a nuclear waste reclamation facility (glass-ifying waste) with a coal power plant, and that the coal power plant had to be off site because it released too much radiation   Quote
selkirk Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 A question for all those who think nuclear is the way. What do we do with the waste?  Well, we were going to put it in Nevada, until that effort got shut down.  What are the other options that you see for stable, efficient, on-demand power sources that can meet the needs of densely populated areas?  Coal / natural gas /oil - Still waste, just most of it is loose in the atmosphere.  Wind / Solar - wonderful to supplement, but isn't really on-demand, and not available everywhere. Great in wyoming, but I wonder if it would meet the needs of the east coast? Might be more viable if we can figure out how to store the energy more effectively.  Hydro - wonderful out west (screw the fishies!) but not available everywhere  Ocean / Tidal - gaining momentum, but not there yet.  Fusion - great idea, seems to be perpetually 20 years out.  At least with nuclear we usually have all the waste contained and accounted for. I always thought breeder reactors were a great idea. Burn the fuel, turn the non-fuel into fuel, and burn it some more. Quote
j_b Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 does '-shima' mean 'someday to be flattened quickly' in Japanese? Â It's going to be quite enlightening to see how Japan responds to lack of preparedness for tsunamis. Due to little buildable space, they probably can't afford to not have housing or infrastrucure on the seaboard. What's the answer? Quote
prole Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Â Whatever it takes to keep this baby going!! Â Quote
rob Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 So what's the homeopathic remedy for radiation poisoning? Â More radiation! But just a little of it. Quote
ivan Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 A question for all those who think nuclear is the way. What do we do with the waste? store it in nevada - worst/best case scenario it explodes, making the entire state an uninhabitable wasteland till dog walks the earth again Quote
ivan Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Whatever it takes to keep this baby going!! Â looks like an update of the kid classic "candyland" Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 The quake shifted the earths axis by 6 inches and shortened day length by 2 microseconds. Quote
ivan Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 the jap-o's need to get this boy on the case! i suspect he would advise some sort of tacheon-beam solution Quote
ivan Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 The quake shifted the earths axis by 6 inches and shortened day length by 2 microseconds. no doubt wisconsin will see to it public workers will see their pay appropriately docked Quote
selkirk Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 A question for all those who think nuclear is the way. What do we do with the waste? store it in nevada - worst/best case scenario it explodes, making the entire state an uninhabitable wasteland till dog walks the earth again  Doesn't that already describe Nevada? Quote
kevbone Posted March 15, 2011 Author Posted March 15, 2011 A question for all those who think nuclear is the way. What do we do with the waste?  Well, we were going to put it in Nevada, until that effort got shut down.  What are the other options that you see for stable, efficient, on-demand power sources that can meet the needs of densely populated areas?  Coal / natural gas /oil - Still waste, just most of it is loose in the atmosphere.  Wind / Solar - wonderful to supplement, but isn't really on-demand, and not available everywhere. Great in wyoming, but I wonder if it would meet the needs of the east coast? Might be more viable if we can figure out how to store the energy more effectively.  Hydro - wonderful out west (screw the fishies!) but not available everywhere  Ocean / Tidal - gaining momentum, but not there yet.  Fusion - great idea, seems to be perpetually 20 years out.  At least with nuclear we usually have all the waste contained and accounted for. I always thought breeder reactors were a great idea. Burn the fuel, turn the non-fuel into fuel, and burn it some more.  Thanks but that really did not answer the question. The half life for most nuclear waste is 24,000 years. Do we bury it? Shoot it into space? Quote
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Molten sodium thorium reactors  He3 fusion using lunar regolith  Geothermal, like the Kiwis use (and they are a small island located on a major fault line too just like the Japanese)  I've seen an analysis that 1000 square km of solar in Arizona could supply the energy needs of all of America. Given that climate change over the next 100 years will likely render the current population of Arizona unsustainably large due to permanent drought, this may be a wise use of the land.  Deep ocean thermal exchangers need to be explored in more detail. I've seen some very promising papers on the technology.  Quote
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion Quote
prole Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Thanks but that really did not answer the question. The half life for most nuclear waste is 24,000 years. Do we bury it? Shoot it into space? Â Like cyrofrozen billionaires, we're just supposed to hold on to it until humans invent a way to deal with it. Sound good? No, not really. Quote
ivan Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Thanks but that really did not answer the question. The half life for most nuclear waste is 24,000 years. Do we bury it? Shoot it into space?  Like cyrofrozen billionaires, we're just supposed to hold on to it until humans invent a way to deal with it. Sound good? No, not really. encasing waste in glass and putting it in the bottom of a very, very deep hole in the middle of fucking nowhere ain't that bad of a solution  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain Quote
j_b Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Molten sodium thorium reactors He3 fusion using lunar regolith  Geothermal, like the Kiwis use (and they are a small island located on a major fault line too just like the Japanese)  I've seen an analysis that 1000 square km of solar in Arizona could supply the energy needs of all of America. Given that climate change over the next 100 years will likely render the current population of Arizona unsustainably large due to permanent drought, this may be a wise use of the land.  Deep ocean thermal exchangers need to be explored in more detail. I've seen some very promising papers on the technology.  Giant gravel batteries to store energy  or Molten salt storage tanks to store energy  although deep geothermal doesn't need any storage in the short to mid-term. Quote
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