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We use a decibel meter.

 

Does it measure shrill?

 

I wouldn't know the pitch, what, with the sound attenuators and all.

 

Alls I know is that I've got the window repair guy on speed dial.

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how is pointing the finger at the handy work of deregulators and oil industry shills like yourself "harping about how everyone else lives"?

 

This is starting to resemble a post-scandal sermon in which Ted Haggard defends his right to condemn male escorts and meth binges...

 

wow, the educated veneer is falling off ..

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So does the planet care if the petroleum gets sucked out to be burned in a Southern Televangelists V-12 powered, Bible-themed hot-rod or to power a danish performance artists conservation-themed LED installation?

 

the "planet" cares about how much oil you use that you could avoid using. We have at least twice as far to go in this domain as any other nation among developed nations, thanks in part to your oil corporation shilling ways.

 

Nah - I'm pretty sure that it's just total global consumption that matters, which is a direct function of wealth. The more output people generate, the more money people have to fund consumption, and the more they consume. The reason that Greeks don't use much energy isn't because of their superior virtue, it's because they don't generate enough output to buy as much.

 

When you look at energy consumption per unit GDP, which is a much better proxy for efficiency than simple per-capita consumption metrics, the picture looks a bit different. Below is a plot of energy consumption per-unit-GDP....

 

 

 

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Time for you to start hectoring the Norweigans and the Dutch....

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So does the planet care if the petroleum gets sucked out to be burned in a Southern Televangelists V-12 powered, Bible-themed hot-rod or to power a danish performance artists conservation-themed LED installation?

 

the "planet" cares about how much oil you use that you could avoid using. We have at least twice as far to go in this domain as any other nation among developed nations, thanks in part to your oil corporation shilling ways.

 

Nah - I'm pretty sure that it's just total global consumption that matters, which is a direct function of wealth. The more output people generate, the more money people have to fund consumption, and the more they consume. The reason that Greeks don't use much energy isn't because of their superior virtue, it's because they don't generate enough output to buy as much.

 

When you look at energy consumption per unit GDP, which is a much better proxy for efficiency than simple per-capita consumption metrics, the picture looks a bit different. Below is a plot of energy consumption per-unit-GDP....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Malthus.

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Snake oil is a total boondoggle. Collecting up all those snakes takes more energy than you get out of them.

 

It's been ages since j_b's snake has seen any oil.

 

That's how eco he is. Total dedication. My girlfriend and I stopped using lube long ago, now it's just straight spit and semen.

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Snake oil is a total boondoggle. Collecting up all those snakes takes more energy than you get out of them.

 

It's been ages since j_b's snake has seen any oil.

 

Um, the guy drives a 1978 Jetta TDI. Whad' you expect?

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Nice photo of the derrick Porter! Bring on the marshmallows and hot dogs.....damn that looks hot.

 

Interesting chart JayB. I've been to both of those country's and it strikes me as incorrect. The Netherlands is a small energy efficient country, everyone is riding bikes, the cars they have are small and public transit is great and well utilized. At least that was my previous belief. Norway is larger, but folks aren't driving all around and have well insulated dwellings.

 

Something is rotten in Denmark with that chart I'd bet.

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Snake oil is a total boondoggle. Collecting up all those snakes takes more energy than you get out of them.

 

It's been ages since j_b's snake has seen any oil.

 

Um, the guy drives a 1978 Jetta TDI. Whad' you expect?

 

A '78 Jetta? EPIC!

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Oil consumption, which is the main discussion, the US leads X3 over the next in line in this older data. I was in China not too long ago, and it wouldn't surprise me to see their useage doubled if not more, and they will most likely surpass us soon it appears.

 

# 1 United States: 20,680,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 3 China: 7,578,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 4 Japan: 5,007,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 5 Russia: 2,858,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 6 India: 2,722,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 7 Germany: 2,456,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 8 Brazil: 2,372,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 9 Canada: 2,371,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 10 Saudi Arabia: 2,311,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 11 Korea, South: 2,214,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 12 Mexico: 2,119,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 13 France: 1,950,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 14 United Kingdom: 1,763,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 15 Italy: 1,702,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 16 Iran: 1,679,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 17 Spain: 1,611,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 18 Indonesia: 1,219,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 19 Netherlands: 984,200 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 20 Australia: 966,200 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 21 Taiwan: 950,500 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 22 Thailand: 928,600 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 23 Singapore: 834,600 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 24 Venezuela: 738,300 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 25 Turkey: 676,600 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 26 Egypt: 652,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 27 Belgium: 628,500 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 28 Argentina: 525,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 29 Poland: 524,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 30 South Africa: 504,900 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 31 Malaysia: 501,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 32 Greece: 441,400 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 33 United Arab Emirates: 381,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 34 Sweden: 353,700 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 35 Pakistan: 345,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 36 Philippines: 340,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 37 Kuwait: 334,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 38 Nigeria: 312,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 39 Portugal: 301,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 40 Iraq: 295,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 41 Hong Kong: 293,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 42 Austria: 289,400 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 43 Ukraine: 284,600 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 44 Algeria: 279,800 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 45 Libya: 278,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 46 Vietnam: 271,100 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 47 Colombia: 265,400 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 48 Chile: 253,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 49 Switzerland: 244,900 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 50 Kazakhstan: 243,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 51 Romania: 238,200 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 52 Israel: 232,300 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 53 Syria: 229,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 54 Finland: 228,200 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 55 Norway: 224,500 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 56 Puerto Rico: 215,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 57 Czech Republic: 207,400 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 58 Cuba: 203,500 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 59 Ireland: 200,900 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 60 Denmark: 190,600 bbl/day 2007 Time series

= 61 Belarus: 179,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

= 61 Morocco: 179,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 63 Peru: 167,900 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 64 Hungary: 162,800 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 65 Ecuador: 160,500 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 66 Azerbaijan: 160,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 67 New Zealand: 158,400 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 68 Uzbekistan: 157,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 69 Turkmenistan: 156,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 70 Yemen: 135,400 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 71 Dominican Republic: 117,300 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 72 Jordan: 110,700 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 73 Bulgaria: 109,600 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 74 Qatar: 108,900 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 75 Lebanon: 106,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 76 Croatia: 101,800 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 77 Panama: 92,790 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 78 Virgin Islands: 91,680 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 79 Tunisia: 91,110 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 80 Bangladesh: 89,940 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 81 Sri Lanka: 86,030 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 82 Serbia and Montenegro: 85,000 bbl/day 2003 Time series

# 83 Slovakia: 82,860 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 84 Sudan: 79,760 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 85 Guatemala: 74,230 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 86 Jamaica: 73,370 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 87 Oman: 69,100 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 88 Netherlands Antilles: 67,450 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 89 Kenya: 65,530 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 90 Luxembourg: 60,640 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 91 Cyprus: 57,830 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 92 Lithuania: 57,170 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 93 Angola: 55,640 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 94 Slovenia: 54,310 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 95 Ghana: 49,300 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 96 Honduras: 46,830 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 97 Costa Rica: 45,600 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 98 El Salvador: 44,330 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 99 Burma: 43,140 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 100 Armenia: 41,090 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 101 Senegal: 36,200 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 102 Latvia: 35,180 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 103 Uruguay: 33,400 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 104 Bahrain: 32,830 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 105 Bolivia: 31,500 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 106 Albania: 30,900 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 107 Ethiopia: 30,450 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 108 Estonia: 30,440 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 109 Nicaragua: 28,880 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 110 Paraguay: 28,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 111 Bosnia and Herzegovina: 27,590 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 112 Tanzania: 27,270 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 113 Bahamas, The: 26,830 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 114 Côte d'Ivoire: 25,950 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 115 Trinidad and Tobago: 24,770 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 116 Cameroon: 24,500 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 117 Gibraltar: 22,620 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 118 Mauritius: 22,450 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 119 Macedonia, Republic of: 21,700 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 120 Iceland: 21,120 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 121 Namibia: 19,840 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 122 Mauritania: 19,320 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 123 Malta: 18,680 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 124 Réunion: 18,500 bbl/day 2003 Time series

# 125 Madagascar: 18,190 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 126 Papua New Guinea: 18,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 127 Togo: 17,770 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 128 Nepal: 16,960 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 129 Macau: 16,570 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 130 Moldova: 15,770 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 131 Zambia: 14,760 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 132 Zimbabwe: 14,590 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 133 Mozambique: 14,390 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 134 Martinique: 13,800 bbl/day 2003 Time series

# 135 Brunei: 13,200 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 136 Gabon: 13,170 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 137 Guadeloupe: 13,000 bbl/day 2003 Time series

# 138 Georgia: 12,980 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 139 Mongolia: 12,860 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 140 Guam: 12,780 bbl/day 2007 Time series

= 141 Haiti: 12,370 bbl/day 2006 Time series

= 141 Suriname: 12,370 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 143 Kyrgyzstan: 12,330 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 144 Botswana: 11,640 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 145 Uganda: 11,570 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 146 New Caledonia: 11,560 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 147 Korea, North: 10,520 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 148 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: 10,460 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 149 Guyana: 10,440 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 150 Fiji: 9,971 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 151 Benin: 9,232 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 152 Barbados: 8,674 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 153 Guinea: 8,559 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 154 Burkina Faso: 8,470 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 155 Sierra Leone: 8,430 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 156 Tajikistan: 8,000 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 157 Congo, Republic of the: 7,677 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 158 Aruba: 7,102 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 159 Belize: 7,000 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 160 French Guiana: 6,600 bbl/day 2003 Time series

# 161 Seychelles: 6,453 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 162 Malawi: 6,160 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 163 French Polynesia: 6,082 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 164 Niger: 5,550 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 165 Maldives: 5,490 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 166 Rwanda: 5,320 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 167 Eritrea: 5,186 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 168 Djibouti: 5,066 bbl/day 2007 Time series

# 169 Somalia: 5,040 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 170 Afghanistan: 5,036 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 171 Mali: 4,640 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 172 Faroe Islands: 4,628 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 173 Bermuda: 4,566 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 174 Antigua and Barbuda: 4,109 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 175 American Samoa: 4,053 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 176 Greenland: 3,927 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 177 Cambodia: 3,736 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 178 Liberia: 3,687 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 179 Swaziland: 3,490 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 180 Laos: 2,996 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 181 Burundi: 2,956 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 182 Saint Lucia: 2,780 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 183 Cayman Islands: 2,767 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 184 Guinea-Bissau: 2,520 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 185 Central African Republic: 2,322 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 186 Cape Verde: 2,117 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 187 Gambia, The: 2,082 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 188 Grenada: 2,043 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 189 Western Sahara: 1,760 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 190 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: 1,570 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 191 Lesotho: 1,400 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 192 Chad: 1,352 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 193 Solomon Islands: 1,320 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 194 Bhutan: 1,250 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 195 Samoa: 1,130 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 196 Nauru: 1,070 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 197 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 950 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 198 Equatorial Guinea: 918.3 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 199 Tonga: 870 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 200 Dominica: 850.5 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 201 Comoros: 712.3 bbl/day 2006 Time series

= 202 Vanuatu: 660 bbl/day 2006 Time series

= 202 São Tomé and Príncipe: 660 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 204 British Virgin Islands: 650 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 205 Saint Pierre and Miquelon: 560 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 206 Montserrat: 505.5 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 207 Cook Islands: 463.7 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 208 Montenegro: 450 bbl/day 2004 Time series

# 209 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas): 252.3 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 210 Kiribati: 232.4 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 211 Turks and Caicos Islands: 80 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 212 Saint Helena: 60 bbl/day 2006 Time series

# 213 Niue: 20 bbl/day 2006 Time series

 

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Nice photo of the derrick Porter! Bring on the marshmallows and hot dogs.....damn that looks hot.

 

Interesting chart JayB. I've been to both of those country's and it strikes me as incorrect. The Netherlands is a small energy efficient country, everyone is riding bikes, the cars they have are small and public transit is great and well utilized. At least that was my previous belief. Norway is larger, but folks aren't driving all around and have well insulated dwellings.

 

Something is rotten in Denmark with that chart I'd bet.

 

Um, I think you might have missed one little detail in that photo...

Posted

Um, I think you might have missed one little detail in that photo...

 

The last time somebody said that, the bitch had a dick.

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