Choada_Boy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 and the implication of comparing that vast open pit to the horrors of bolting is pretty valid... I disagree. That's the old LAME excuse that as long as there is a bigger mess somewhere else, you don't have to deal with the smaller ones. Why is something like an open pit coal mine a "mess"? Why make a normative statement about a particular fact of our technological existence? Open pit coal mines, like bolts, are neither good nor bad, but extensions of the technological world onto the natural. We are organic components of the technological world, using our biologic energy to enact the localized/delocalized "mind" of the/our technological consciousness. Your morals are a relic from a distant organic past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 how are humans and what they do somehow not a part of nature? JESUS HUMANS ARE POMPOUS ASSES. Everything that occurs, occurs as a part of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Who said we are not part of nature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Who said we are not part of nature? nothing made in nature could be as dumb as kevbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Hugh, I have a dog that disproves that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 sadly, even the fleas on your dog's ass could be considered an improvement - intellectually, evolutionarily, and morally - on kevbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Who said we are not part of nature? no one. its a discussion of something else other than whatever was being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 how are humans and what they do somehow not a part of nature? JESUS HUMANS ARE POMPOUS ASSES. Everything that occurs, occurs as a part of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 and the implication of comparing that vast open pit to the horrors of bolting is pretty valid... I disagree. That's the old LAME excuse that as long as there is a bigger mess somewhere else, you don't have to deal with the smaller ones. Why is something like an open pit coal mine a "mess"? Why make a normative statement about a particular fact of our technological existence? Open pit coal mines, like bolts, are neither good nor bad, but extensions of the technological world onto the natural. We are organic components of the technological world, using our biologic energy to enact the localized/delocalized "mind" of the/our technological consciousness. Your morals are a relic from a distant organic past. I can't believe I actually agree with you 100% on something, CB! BTW, what is the difference between the blight that is a strip mine and the blight of the Valley of the Kings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 BTW, what is the difference between the blight that is a strip mine and the blight of the Valley of the Kings? Is there a punchline to this joke? Could it be...the difference is that you apparently know nothing about the Valley of the Kings or archaeology??? Could that be it? Dude....you're both ignorant and gratuitously hateful, both of which are clouding your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Could it be...the difference is that you apparently know nothing about the Valley of the Kings or archaeology??? Could that be it? Nope, try again. Hint: it's about your blatant hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Why is something like an open pit coal mine a "mess"? Why make a normative statement about a particular fact of our technological existence? Open pit coal mines, like bolts, are neither good nor bad, but extensions of the technological world onto the natural. We are organic components of the technological world, using our biologic energy to enact the localized/delocalized "mind" of the/our technological consciousness. Your morals are a relic from a distant organic past. This perfectly frames and explains the entire phenomena, issue, and impact. It also perfectly explains the obesity epidemic, strip malls, and the bolt-enabled transformation of climbing to riskless entertainment for the vast majority of the demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 everything is nature. nothing is nature. what a paradox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Why is something like an open pit coal mine a "mess"? Why make a normative statement about a particular fact of our technological existence? Open pit coal mines, like bolts, are neither good nor bad, but extensions of the technological world onto the natural. We are organic components of the technological world, using our biologic energy to enact the localized/delocalized "mind" of the/our technological consciousness. Your morals are a relic from a distant organic past. This perfectly frames and explains the entire phenomena, issue, and impact. It also perfectly explains the obesity epidemic, strip malls, and the bolt-enabled transformation of climbing to riskless entertainment for the vast majority of the demographic. yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 yawn That's the other half of the mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Why is something like an open pit coal mine a "mess"? Why make a normative statement about a particular fact of our technological existence? Open pit coal mines, like bolts, are neither good nor bad, but extensions of the technological world onto the natural. We are organic components of the technological world, using our biologic energy to enact the localized/delocalized "mind" of the/our technological consciousness. Your morals are a relic from a distant organic past. This perfectly frames and explains the entire phenomena, issue, and impact. It also perfectly explains the obesity epidemic, strip malls, and the bolt-enabled transformation of climbing to riskless entertainment for the vast majority of the demographic. I'm here for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 everything is nature. nothing is nature. what a paradox! WRONG! Nothing is not nature. There is no so such thing as a indescribable void (outside of CC.com Spray). Nothing does not exist. There is always something occupying space. It just happens to be so small you can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I would draw you a picture describing this fact, but my pencil is not small enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'm here for you. Thanks, that's evident everywhere I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Could it be...the difference is that you apparently know nothing about the Valley of the Kings or archaeology??? Could that be it? Nope, try again. Hint: it's about your blatant hypocrisy. Yoda say: "Shallow, and not very smart you are." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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olyclimber Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 i think we all understand that you have drawn a line in the sand. and that many have drawn their lines in the sand. and still others will have none of this drawing of lines in the sand business. these lines in the sand are but opinions. opinions that we have heard over and over and over again. perhaps you believe that the more you haggle about your particular line in the sand, the more it will hold credence than others. sort of like making yourself easier to understand by shouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 i think we all understand that you have drawn a line in the sand. and that many have drawn their lines in the sand. and still others will have none of this drawing of lines in the sand business. these lines in the sand are but opinions. opinions that we have heard over and over and over again. perhaps you believe that the more you haggle about your particular line in the sand, the more it will hold credence than others. sort of like making yourself easier to understand by shouting. line in the sand??!?!??! you obviously know NOTHING about archaeology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Could it be...the difference is that you apparently know nothing about the Valley of the Kings or archaeology??? Could that be it? Nope, try again. Hint: it's about your blatant hypocrisy. Yoda say: "Shallow, and not very smart you are." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 every time you use my pic costs you a dollar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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