mythosgrl Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I am in the market for health insurance and I talked to a company that gives pretty cheap plans yesterday, but they asked if I rock climbed and I told the truth... They said they would not cover me if I got injured climbing. Ugh!! Frustrating... Anyone know if all insurance companies ask that question? Anyone have a cheap plan now that is basically catastrophic insurance, but would cover a climbing accident? I will be living in CO, so I would have to go through a company that had contracts with providers there. Thanks for your help! Quote
JosephH Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 We can insure binge drinkers, the obese-by-choice, and smokers - but god forbid you go climbing... Quote
olyclimber Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 you might as well be telling them..."i'm a risk fueled adrenaline junkie....how much do you charge to insure that?". i'm pretty sure you can find rock climbing insurance...but it won't be cheap. i have never heard of a company asking that question, but if you volunteer it, i'm sure they will walk away or triple your rates. it is the insurance racket...i mean industry. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Insurance companies lie as a matter of course about all kinds of things to their customers...promising to actually cover things they have absolutely not intention of coming through one comes to mind. The guys at Honest Abe Cameras are more up front. Return the favor. The fact that they even ask that kind of question should be a crime. Thanks to the uniquely American love of sucking corporate cock, supported by our now much cherished conservative movement, it is not. Edited September 20, 2009 by tvashtarkatena Quote
mattp Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Insurance companies lie as a matter of course about all kinds of things to their customers...promising to actually cover things they have absolutely not intention of coming through one comes to mind. The guys at Honest Abe Cameras are more up front. Return the favor. The fact that they even ask that kind of question should be a crime. Thanks to the uniquely American love of sucking corporate cock, supported by our now much cherished conservative movement, it is not. I'm not sure what you are recommending there, Tvash. I agree that insurance companies lie. My wife spent a lot of time comparing insurance offerings and selected a plan that was not cheap but which offered strong coverage of prescription drugs and then, when we later turned out to actually HAVE prescription drug needs, denied coverage. But I would not suggest anybody lie on an insurance application. You would only be giving them a free pass to deny coverage. Quote
Fairweather Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Not sure what company you applied with. My daughter finished college last year and got a $160/mo policy with BCBS of Washington that covered her pre-existing ACL tear and the required surgery. The only activities they asked her about were skydiving, hang-gliding, and, of course, smoking. Who did you apply with again? Quote
YocumRidge Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Insurance companies lie as a matter of course about all kinds of things to their customers...promising to actually cover things they have absolutely not intention of coming through one comes to mind. The guys at Honest Abe Cameras are more up front. Return the favor. The fact that they even ask that kind of question should be a crime. Thanks to the uniquely American love of sucking corporate cock, supported by our now much cherished conservative movement, it is not. PUBLIC OPTION is the only market-based solution to keep pressure on private insurers against keeping the American people hostage to conspiratorial corporate greed. Whoever does not understand that has JELLO for brains. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/head-count-house-progress_n_283756.html Quote
Fairweather Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 PUBLIC OPTION is the only market-based solution to keep pressure on private insurers against keeping the American people hostage to conspiratorial corporate greed. Whoever does not understand that has JELLO for brains. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/head-count-house-progress_n_283756.html That's a funny statement coming from someone who reads Huffingtonpost to stay informed. Quote
CollinWoods Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Of course insurance companys are only in for the money. Why would you run a company just to serve others and not make a profit? If you lie to your insurance and you end up needing a lot of money from them do not expect them to look into you... One of the biggest source of income for private investigation companys is from the insurance industry (a lot of it workers comp). Being in the PI industry id say be carful what you lie about because if the shit does hit the fan and you really are an avid climber, dont expect them not to find out. Edited September 20, 2009 by CollinWoods Quote
kevbone Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 One of the biggest source of income for private investigation companys is from the insurance industry (a lot of it workers comp). Not true. If you are injured in WA....it is VERY hard to deny. Therefore the need to investigate is low. WA is very liberal towards the worker. Trust me...I know. Quote
YocumRidge Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 PUBLIC OPTION is the only market-based solution to keep pressure on private insurers against keeping the American people hostage to conspiratorial corporate greed. Whoever does not understand that has JELLO for brains. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/head-count-house-progress_n_283756.html That's a funny statement coming from someone who reads Huffingtonpost to stay informed. I do not have the online subscription to the WSJ. Quote
CollinWoods Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Being hard to deny is exactly why we investigate. Its a lot more common than youd think. Its not the state that investigates, its PI agencys. Edited September 20, 2009 by CollinWoods Quote
StevenSeagal Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 PUBLIC OPTION is the only market-based solution to keep pressure on private insurers against keeping the American people hostage to conspiratorial corporate greed. Whoever does not understand that has JELLO for brains. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/head-count-house-progress_n_283756.html That's a funny statement coming from someone who reads Huffingtonpost to stay informed. I do not have the online subscription to the WSJ. Actually, the Limbaugh Letter is your best bet for objective reporting on the subject and for debunking all notions that there has ever been any flaw with the system of corporate self-governance and accountability! Quote
olyclimber Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Being hard to deny is exactly why we investigate. Its a lot more common than youd think. Its not the state that investigates, its PI agencys. are you a private dick? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 PUBLIC OPTION is the only market-based solution to keep pressure on private insurers against keeping the American people hostage to conspiratorial corporate greed. Whoever does not understand that has JELLO for brains. Unless the public option chooses to ration the care in preference to non-climbers. Quote
olyclimber Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 well the PNW climbing community is well connected in Washington now. i'm pretty sure it will be the opposite. the only way you'll be getting care with Obamacare is if you ARE a climber. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 i'm pretty sure it will be the opposite. the only way you'll be getting care with Obamacare is if you ARE a climber. were you "pretty sure" Obama would get us out of Iraq too? Quote
Fairweather Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Actually, the Limbaugh Letter is your best bet for objective reporting on the subject and for debunking all notions that there has ever been any flaw with the system of corporate self-governance and accountability! Pretty much what I'm saying. Huffingtonpost and Limbaugh Letter are two sides of the same coin. Quote
Fairweather Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Not true. If you are injured in WA....it is VERY hard to deny. Therefore the need to investigate is low. WA is very liberal towards the worker. Trust me...I know. Hopefully it was a legitimate injury and you weren't just milking the system like liberals are so fond of doing. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Actually, the Limbaugh Letter is your best bet for objective reporting on the subject and for debunking all notions that there has ever been any flaw with the system of corporate self-governance and accountability! Pretty much what I'm saying. Huffingtonpost and Limbaugh Letter are two sides of the same coin. How about this one? Quote
prole Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 Hopefully it was a legitimate injury and you weren't just milking the system like liberals are so fond of doing. You mean economic liberals? Quote
olyclimber Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 i'm pretty sure it will be the opposite. the only way you'll be getting care with Obamacare is if you ARE a climber. were you "pretty sure" Obama would get us out of Iraq too? nothing to say here. onward champ! Quote
mythosgrl Posted September 20, 2009 Author Posted September 20, 2009 The insurance company was Assurent. A lot of my classmates like them because they offer really cheap rates if you are healthy. They said they would tack on $40 a month to cover me and my husband for climbing injuries, but would only pay up to 10K in bills for the injury. I work in the healthcare system and know that 10K is nothing if you are injured seriously. Yes, they asked me if i went skydiving, whitewater kayaking, mountain climbing, SCUBA diving OR rock climbing. Anyone have any actual help out there?? Wasn't sure if this post belonged on the climber's board or spray... Quote
Fairweather Posted September 20, 2009 Posted September 20, 2009 I'll get more specifics from her when she comes back on Monday if you'd like. Let me know. On another note, I just opened today's mail and it turns out that my employer needs proof that my wife of 25 years is really my wife--or they're kicking her off my policy effective September 30th! Quote
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