prole Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Looks rad. Network Rail has proposed a new £34bn ($55bn) high-speed railway line linking Scotland and London by 2030. The line would serve Birmingham and Manchester, getting passengers from Glasgow to London in just two hours and 16 minutes, the rail firm said. It rejected several alternative routes, including the east of England. The government said assessments of the costs and environmental issues involved needed to be carried out before it could approve any plans. It is currently conducting its own rail network review and said it hoped to be in a position to make a decision next year. If given the go-ahead, Network Rail said it would take up to five years to decide on the exact route and complete the planning stages. It wants the first section of the line between London and Birmingham to be completed by 2020. The line would become the country's second high-speed rail link after the line that runs from London St Pancras to the Channel Tunnel, run by the Eurostar service and connecting to high-speed lines in continental Europe. New line Network Rail's proposed new line linking Glasgow and Edinburgh with London, on which trains could travel as fast as 200mph, would also serve Manchester, Liverpool, Preston and Birmingham. A spokesman for one of Manchester's biggest employers, Kellog's cereals, said: "This is great news for business in Manchester, just as London is going to be more accessible for us, Manchester will be for those in the South East." The new line would cut the journey between London and Birmingham to 45 minutes, from a best time of one hour and 22 minutes currently. Rail passengers would also be able to get to Liverpool in one hour and 23 minutes, from two hours and eight minutes now. Network Rail, the company that runs Britain's rail infrastructure, said the new line would require more than 1,500 miles of rail, sleepers and ballast, as well as 138 bridges over roads and current railway lines. Network Rail says the new line is required to ease the pressure on Britain's railways. It says passenger numbers have rocketed by 40% over the past decade, and that by 2024, many existing lines will be at full capacity. Transport Secretary Lord Adonis told the BBC that high-speed links were vital for the future. "This report makes a powerful case for high-speed rail in Britain," he said. Lord Adonis said the company set up by the government to prepare a high-speed rail plan would take "full account" of the proposals and deliver a report by the end of the year, with a decision by next year. Currently, the route proposal will be between London and the West Midlands, with options to extend the line to Scotland and the north of England. Alternative options There has been a universal welcome for these proposals here. But there are still many questions about this project, not least the cost -£34bn. Only the government has the capability of funding such a large infrastructure project and as we know, government money is very tight at the moment. And there is the cost to passengers. If you look to Europe there is a premium on routes such as this, where ticket prices are typically 30% higher for travelling on high-speed services. The Conservatives' shadow transport secretary, Theresa Villiers, told the BBC she welcomed the announcement. "We're committed to taking high-speed rail to the north of England, and we think Labour should match that," she said. The Conservatives currently propose to build a rail link between Leeds and London. Network Rail said it had rejected routes that would have taken the new line via Leeds and Newcastle upon Tyne, as well as a route that included Leicester and Sheffield and another option through Bristol and Cardiff. But Greg Mulholland, MP for Leeds North West, said: "Once again this government has neglected the people of Yorkshire when it comes to investment in transport." Meanwhile, the Freight Transport Association said that the announcement offered a chance to look at wider rail issues beyond passenger transport. "While it is good news that Network Rail has set out its agenda for High Speed 2, far reaching and meaningful improvements to rail freight could be made for just a fraction of the £30bn estimated [cost]," said the organisation's Christopher Snelling. 'Plan quickly' Network Rail based its decision on a 12-month study involving 20,000 hours of work and more than 1,500 pages of analysis. The firm said that the line would account for 43.7 million journeys per year by 2030, which would result in 3.8 million fewer vehicle journeys and fewer carbon dioxide emissions. "If, as research suggests, up to three times as many passengers will be travelling on our railways by 2020, then it is important that we move quickly in planning today for the rail network of tomorrow," said Scotland's Transport Minister Stewart Stevenson. --from BBC 8/26/09 Edited August 26, 2009 by prole Quote
olyclimber Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 unless it stops at my house and takes me exactly where i want to go, its a boondoggle Quote
StevenSeagal Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 unless it stops at my house and takes me exactly where i want to go, its a boondoggle if it offers direct service from my front door to Walmart, then I could get behind this idea. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Screw Britain lets get the express shuttles (bus) back to Safeco....dream globally fight locally! Quote
G-spotter Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Does the city of Seattle have its voter-demanded monorail yet? Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 No because the politicians havent yet bought into all the real estate partnerships along the route......... Quote
Jim Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Screw Britain lets get the express shuttles (bus) back to Safeco....dream globally fight locally! ...to buy expensive beer and watch mediocrity. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Jim we are in a rebuilding phase....... Quote
prole Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 With the exception of Ichiro and Felix calling this team mediocre would be a compliment. Quote
murraysovereign Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Why would anyone want to get to Glasgow sooner? Unless you were just in a hurry to get out of Manchester, I suppose - then it might make sense. Quote
G-spotter Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Clearly Murray the entire purpose of the rail system is to get the rest of the country to Liverpool as fast as possible. Quote
billcoe Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Looks like it goes right near the Road to Wigans pier then? Maybe a couple of billion more can push it all the way there where it can terminate? Quote
G-spotter Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Your knowledge of geography is clearly minimal. Quote
Hugh Conway Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Jim we are in a rebuilding phase....... America? or the Mariners? With both we are paying out the ass to watch shit and get fucked. Quote
billcoe Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Your knowledge of geography is clearly minimal. pfft: and your knowledge of literature is clearly minimal. Wigan Pier was a coal terminal. Quote
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