Gary_Yngve Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 should Obama have said it the correct way, instead of repeating what the chief justice said, or should Obama have said it the same way the chief justice said, to honor the "repeat after me?" though note that Roberts finished with "So help you God" which Obama translated to "So help me God" not quite a literal repeat i guess that means Obama passes the Turing Test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 He just became prez and you are already giving him shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 should Obama have said it the correct way, instead of repeating what the chief justice said, or should Obama have said it the same way the chief justice said, to honor the "repeat after me?" though note that Roberts finished with "So help you God" which Obama translated to "So help me God" not quite a literal repeat i guess that means Obama passes the Turing Test you are retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Roberts did it on purpose so that Republicans could later mount a legal challenge against Obama's presidency based on him saying the oath wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is good planning ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 this debacle marred an otherwise perfect day. i won't be able to sleep tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Impeach Roberts ass, the bastard can't even read the oath right when it is written in the constitution and appoint Bill Clinton in his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeezix Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is an important thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc313 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Impeach Roberts ass, the bastard can't even read the oath right when it is written in the constitution and appoint Bill Clinton in his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 He just became prez and you are already giving him shit. I am just relieved that jon Stewart will still have material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 should Obama have said it the correct way, instead of repeating what the chief justice said, or should Obama have said it the same way the chief justice said, to honor the "repeat after me?" The NPR account that I heard said that "Obama paused to give the Chief Justice time to correct himself." From this I can reasonably conclude that Roberts fucked it up, there was a pregnant pause, Roberts recognized his error and corrected himself, to which Obama replied according to the words for the Oath of Office written in our Constitution. Done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkporwit Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) In any case, recitation of the oath is not required to assume the office of president. The oath was not complete until 12:05, but Obama became president at 12:00 sharp. There seems to be some ambiguity between the 2nd and 20th amendments: Wikipedia on the Oath Edited January 21, 2009 by mkporwit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The Experts Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Here is how the Oath of Office reads in the Constitution: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." This is what was said yesterday: ROBERTS: I, Barack Hussein Obama... OBAMA: I, Barack... ROBERTS: ... do solemnly swear... OBAMA: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear... ROBERTS: ... that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully... OBAMA: ... that I will execute... ROBERTS: ... faithfully the office of president of the United States... OBAMA: ... the office of president of the United States faithfully... ROBERTS: ... and will to the best of my ability... OBAMA: ... and will to the best of my ability... ROBERTS: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. OBAMA: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. ROBERTS: So help you God? OBAMA: So help me God. ROBERTS: Congratulations, Mr. President. transcript source So Obama gets one word out of place, and all sorts of people want him to do a "do-over". Have we become that litigious of a society? Shit, grammatically, Obama said it correctly, because as the Oath is written in the Constitution, it's a split infinitive. I'm sure some of y'all oldtimers remember in your grammar school days when the English teacher told ya that Captain Kirk used a split infinitive when he recited the intro to Star Trek. Y'all remember, "To boldly go..."? That's what I'm talkin' about. As Choada Boy links, experts all agree that he should do it over, and one opinion I read hints that he may have already done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 So Obama gets one word out of place, and all sorts of people want him to do a "do-over". Have we become that litigious of a society? Another thing we have the likes of Karl Rove to thank for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 So Obama gets one word out of place, and all sorts of people want him to do a "do-over". Have we become that litigious of a society? Another thing we have the likes of Karl Rove to thank for. I don't want to see this administration deal with the kind of shit that the last administration had to deal with. Ya know, how liberals said that Bush "stole the election" and all that shit. Now, I don't want to hear conservatives say that Obama is not the "real" president, just because he flubbed a word in the Oath of Office (but made the Oath grammatically correct). I can just hear it coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 it's not a split infinitive. infinitives are of the form "to (verb)". there is some form of splitting, but otherwise it's future tense, active voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I have had to swear an oath where the person ended with, "so help you God" and I said "so help me God". Maybe I should be President!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i just plain swear...a lot.. i should rule this whole stinkin' shithole of a mutherfokkin' planet, now that i think about it... my first order would be to imprison kevbone in gitmo and then light the place on fire... succkazzzzzzz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 not a bad idea, RuMR. how about throw him in with Prole and a couple enemy combatants into the same cell and see what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i'd toss fairypantz and trashcan in there too for good measure... bet i could sell tix to the main event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 They are reporting O retook the oath today, now on to impeaching Roberts sorry ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Really? I want to retake an O myself today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 it's not a split infinitive. infinitives are of the form "to (verb)". there is some form of splitting, but otherwise it's future tense, active voice. Goddammit Gary, fine! It's some fuq'n form of splitting: "will faithfully perform..." Anyone got a guess? Where's Archie? She's generally good at this sort of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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