sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Describing human behavior as purely instinctual is a bit simplistic. it depends on what one means by "instinctual". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 let's repeat memes about memes, shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 the observer has lost his way, attaching to fragments of a passing story. can he let the story go completely, losing himself so entirely as to....find himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirp Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Tell that old fucker to start using or goddamn paragraphs pls.I have no time for run on bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STP Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Describing human behavior as purely instinctual is a bit simplistic. A view that appears so mechanistic and reductionist by incorporating bits of Freud (biology is destiny) and Skinner (we are mindless automatons) among others. But if we see unexplainable examples of innate (instinctual) behavior in animals, for instance, a bird that manages to build a nest without prior knowledge(or is there really 'innate' behavior?) then by extension wouldn't you suspect the same for humans or are we really that removed from the 'lower' animals? As far as genes determining our behavior, see for instance this: The gene that makes us once bitten, twice shy Our 'instincts', or deep seated emotional drives and impulses, may drive us to think, feel, or do one thing while our prefontal cortex drives us to think, feel, and do another. Why new age buddhism is so appealing? I do agree that philosophy and religion are two common sources of morality, which is a human construct, but a person who has... A Christian would say that morality derives from God, that morality derived from man is flawed. Governments, of course, are one of the chief engines of morality today. They have become extremely adept... Social manipulation for the Atman or Immortality Project (google Ken Wilber). He uses the example of the pyramids as a grand social project built on the mass contribution of the people but overseen by the governing elite. It's all about the power structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder206 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Bill Cosby is the Antichrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccallboater Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Somebody gives these guys a call and get an informed opinion please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STP Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 the observer has lost his way, attaching to fragments of a passing story. can he let the story go completely, losing himself so entirely as to....find himself? Who is himself? Himself is maya, everchanging. "All conditioned phenomena Are like a dream, an illusion, a bubble, a shadow Like the dew, or like lightning"--Diamond Sutra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Somebody gives these guys a call and get an informed opinion please... Jesus is the son of Allah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 the observer has lost his way, attaching to fragments of a passing story. can he let the story go completely, losing himself so entirely as to....find himself? Who is himself? Himself is maya, everchanging. "All conditioned phenomena Are like a dream, an illusion, a bubble, a shadow Like the dew, or like lightning"--Diamond Sutra what happens if you step past "himself is maya, everchanging"? this is another story about "self", defining it (although in a more subtle, sophisticated way....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) I think humans have a very significant primal component. Even though the prefontal cortex is constantly deciding what to do based on a barrage of modern considerations, we have a fundamental evolutionary imperative as social animals to 'fit in'...to our party, our government, our neighborhood, our friendships, our marriage, our internuts, our street gangs.... The brain is also a delicate organ that is sensitive to chemical balances; also a direct byproduct of evolution. Change the chemistry and personality and behavior, ie what constitutes the self, changes accordingly. The kicker is that humans, for whatever reason, evolved really large reasoning centers, which are capable of a whole lot of spurious activity, including those which ensure a lack of survival rather than the opposite. This is what throws a curve ball into the whole 'instinct' argument; the ability of the prefrontal cortex to 'argue' with deeper impulses and either win or lose that argument when it's time to act. Edited April 15, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 When the brain starts thinking about the brain, and tries to catch itself thinking, then whoops. There you go. The rabbit hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Social manipulation for the Atman or Immortality Project (google Ken Wilber). He uses the example of the pyramids as a grand social project built on the mass contribution of the people but overseen by the governing elite. It's all about the power structure. ken wilber is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 When the brain starts thinking about the brain, and tries to catch itself thinking, then whoops. There you go. The rabbit hole. so if attention is directed towards the normal "normative" brain processees, and no longer the contents of brain processees are simply "obeyed", then this observational vantage point (which gives one awareness of the standard thought structures) leads to the "rabbit hole", and this is to be considered a "whoops"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 And I think it was thousands, but the point is the same. you are fucking retarded. when was islam created? next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 And I think it was thousands, but the point is the same. you are fucking retarded... Us retarded need lovin too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREETOAD Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 god love the mongoloids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 their specialty is head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREETOAD Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 why do people call it downs syndrome when they always look so happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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