tvashtarkatena Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dem's want everyone to be forced to live by their moral beliefs that we should take care of the less fortunate by forcing everyone to pay for universal health care. And this is different from Rep's trying to force everyone to live by their moral beliefs that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's right, folks, Dem's are the ones who tolerate diversity and fight for freedom and make sure everyone has the right to choose their own path in life. You know better than to foist this troll bullshit. The Dems are not pushing universal health care; the country is. The idea is now supported by a majority of Americans regardless of political affiliation. "LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness." Pretty clear to me. At the center of this troll is the idea that only lazy shitbags get sick, and they do so because of poor life habits. In fact, they deserve it, right? It's simply a story people tell themselves so that they feel better about abandoning so many of their countrymen in need. I'd have more respect for the opponents of universal health care if they just came right out and said they really didn't give a shit about anyone else. Oh wait, KKK just said that, and I still don't respect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 HA! That's funny I edited my post above to include references to beer,etc before I even read this. Hey KK, keep up the good work of looking out for #1 and not caring to try to make the world a kinder, gentler, and fairer world for everyone else. We're all very proud of you. When I hear of uninsured I think of elderly folks, or poor families and kids, not "healthy, athletic, 20-year-olds". Seems to me the person looking out for #1 is YOU and the other posters on this site, who want ME to pay for YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dem's want everyone to be forced to live by their moral beliefs that we should take care of the less fortunate by forcing everyone to pay for universal health care. And this is different from Rep's trying to force everyone to live by their moral beliefs that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's right, folks, Dem's are the ones who tolerate diversity and fight for freedom and make sure everyone has the right to choose their own path in life. Please try harder in the future. I'm not going to pick this apart because even you know this is a poor argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 GEEF ME TROLL, OR GEEF ME TEH DETH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 HA! That's funny I edited my post above to include references to beer,etc before I even read this. Hey KK, keep up the good work of looking out for #1 and not caring to try to make the world a kinder, gentler, and fairer world for everyone else. We're all very proud of you. When I hear of uninsured I think of elderly folks, or poor families and kids, not "healthy, athletic, 20-year-olds". Seems to me the person looking out for #1 is YOU and the other posters on this site, who want ME to pay for YOU. It's already been said. We can take your insurance premium, my insurance premium, and everyone else's insurance premium and pay for healthcare for EVERYONE. I would be willing to take a risk, possibly reducing the quality of my care so that others can have some. Mostly because I don't think quality of care would diminish at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 I would be willing to take a risk, possibly reducing the quality of my care so that others can have some. Mostly because I don't think quality of care would diminish at all. And what happens when Hillary tells you that accidents resulting from climbing are not covered by the nationalized health care system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dem's want everyone to be forced to live by their moral beliefs that we should take care of the less fortunate by forcing everyone to pay for universal health care. And this is different from Rep's trying to force everyone to live by their moral beliefs that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's right, folks, Dem's are the ones who tolerate diversity and fight for freedom and make sure everyone has the right to choose their own path in life. You know better than to foist this troll bullshit. The Dems are not pushing universal health care; the country is. The idea is now supported by a majority of Americans regardless of political affiliation. "LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness." Pretty clear to me. At the center of this troll is the idea that only lazy shitbags get sick, and they do so because of poor life habits. In fact, they deserve it, right? It's simply a story people tell themselves so that they feel better about abandoning so many of their countrymen in need. I'd have more respect for the opponents of universal health care if they just came right out and said they really didn't give a shit about anyone else. Oh wait, KKK just said that, and I still don't respect him. The simple story being told to oneself here seems to be that anyone that opposing the nationalization of healthcare is doing so out of callous disregard for the less fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 That won't happen. There will just be a "climbing tax" imposed on those who choose to participate, so that the increased risk is offset by the increased revenue from said risk group. Kinda like "sin" taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I would be willing to take a risk, possibly reducing the quality of my care so that others can have some. Mostly because I don't think quality of care would diminish at all. And what happens when Hillary tells you that accidents resulting from climbing are not covered by the nationalized health care system? It's more likely to be my insurance company that says it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 insurance speculation thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I would be willing to take a risk, possibly reducing the quality of my care so that others can have some. Mostly because I don't think quality of care would diminish at all. And what happens when Hillary tells you that accidents resulting from climbing are not covered by the nationalized health care system? I can see where activity-specific coverage would be of some concern for this poster, particularly coverage for the activity of receiving physical love from livestock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 The simple story being told to oneself here seems to be that anyone that opposing the nationalization of healthcare is doing so out of callous disregard for the less fortunate. That's the modus operandi of every card-carrying Democrat. If you oppose their position, then you are a "bad person" - fill in loaded derogatory slur here: 1) oppose illegal immigration, affirmative action programs, hate-crime legislation, etc: you are a racist 2) oppose gay marriage, gay couples adopting, etc: you are a homophobe 3) oppose social programs: you are callous and care about yourself only 4) oppose tax increases: you're a rich capitalist who cares only about yourself 5) if you oppose abortion, stem-cell research, etc: you are a religious fanatic It goes on and on. Basically, if you oppose anything on their agenda, then they make attacks on you as a person - the politics of personal destruction. Smacks right out of the Soviet Commie strategy - just one step short of calling all opponents bourgeosie capitalists and enemies of the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 That won't happen. There will just be a "climbing tax" imposed on those who choose to participate, so that the increased risk is offset by the increased revenue from said risk group. Kinda like "sin" taxes. Every time someone is rescued from Hood or Rainier by helicopter there is an outcry: "why is the American taxpayer paying for this!!" If there is nationalized health care, and people are not getting the care they think they should be - the utopian vision of our left-leaning friends falls on its face, be damned sure that people will try to get you to cough up the full cost of treatment for climbing-related injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbingPanther Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Rainier's permit jumps to $500, lesser volcanoes are $350, and any time you set foot on NF/wilderness ground is $150. Live the vision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 1) oppose illegal immigration, affirmative action programs, hate-crime legislation, etc: you are a racist 2) oppose gay marriage, gay couples adopting, etc: you are a homophobe 3) oppose social programs: you are callous and care about yourself only 4) oppose tax increases: you're a rich capitalist who cares only about yourself 5) if you oppose abortion, stem-cell research, etc: you are a religious fanatic Arguing without an educated position will get you branded these things. Remember - "Us" and "Them" politics only benefits the politicians and the lobbying companies behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 Arguing without an educated position will get you branded these things. The only "educated position" is of course, the one the leftist holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 arguing any of these position gets one branded as uneducated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 arguing any of these position gets one branded as uneducated Which goes hand-in-hand with the theme of the statists on the left side of the aisle: "you must be educated on this issue". Somehow I just get an image of Communist Reeducation Camps in my head. I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fig8 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Yet another moron that believes the BS shoveled into his mouth by the AMA. Let's see, the govt can run the post office, the patent office, the court system, the military, the airports, schools, etc But only a union of doctors, who care mainly about keeping their salaries high, can run the health care system. Right. I think the roids are going to your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'm yet another moron that believes the BS shoveled into his mouth by the Democrat Party. Let's see, the govt can run the post office, the patent office, the court system, the military, the airports, schools, etc It should also run every other aspect of our lives. That about sums it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fig8 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Right, because universal health care equates to the govt running every aspect of our lives. Exactly what the AMA wants you to believe. You are a good lamb. More fear, fewer questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam13 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Now you have resorted to quoting and then changing people's posts. Do you actually work for the Bush admin or does one of them just have you on one of those S&M chains with a tennis ball stuffed in your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 Right, because universal health care equates to the govt running every aspect of our lives. Exactly what the AMA wants you to believe. You are a good lamb. More fear, fewer questions. The left's "solution" to EVERY problem is a new/bigger/more-expensive government program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 Now you have resorted to quoting and then changing people's posts. Do you actually work for the Bush admin or does one of them just have you on one of those S&M chains with a tennis ball stuffed in your mouth. Whatever you say, tweaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 THE LITTLE LIBBYS WITH THERE LITTLE TAX AND SPEND GOT THEIR PANTIES IN LITTLE WAD AFTER CONSERVATIVE CLEAR BLUE LOGIC WAS INSERTED INTO THEIR BACKSIDES AND RAMMED HOME. LITTLE LIBBYS GO CRY TO HILLARY LITTLE WHATEVER GOES TAX AND SPENDER MOONBATS. LIBBYS TO BUSY CONTROLLEN THE MEDIA AND RUNNING HTE POSTOFFICE TO SEE THE BEAUTIFUL CONSERVATIVE INVISIBILE HAND OF THE MARKET BITCH SLAPPEN EM STUPID LIBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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