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Remarkably blase' attitude towards 15-year olds getting into coke on display here. Is this a bit of 70's era sentimentalism getting the best of folks, or....? Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

Not my kids, not my problem, but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

I know that getting older and putting considerations that rank above the maintenance one's mental image of one's own hipness are...like, a total downer, man...and don't jive well with the mental images of one's future elder-grooviness that one constructed as a teenager a long, long, long, long fucking time ago....but that's adulthood for you.

 

BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH. No way dude. Ya gonna ruin some kids life over this?

 

Just confiscate the Coke and give me a call. :crosseye: That so hard to understand? Shit.

 

BTW, I have a 21 Year old and a 16 going on 17 year old, so don't play the morality card with me OR my nose. :cool:

 

BTW as parents and adults, I think it's our perogotive and job to snoop.

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Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

No it wouldnt and you know that, two completly different things you cant compare it to the most dangerous thing available and say see..

 

but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

way way way to much tv man, kids who come from good families can experiment and figure shit out with out too much harm.

 

life is about experimenting and figuring shit out, if you subscribe to the do it once and your addicted then your mistaken

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Well, I'm a student, a major nerd, and an iPod lover........

 

Could it be that your lecture sucked so bad that Slayer was the only way out for her?

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I don't have an actuary handy, Bill, but I'd be willing to go out on a limb here and wager that sustaining the coke-intake has a much better chance of ruining the average teenager's life than the average parent's response.

 

I got caught drinking at a school dance 13 and that was probably the single most painful event of my young life, between ruining the straight-A/boyscout halo-thing that I had going on (10%), and the pain, distress, and embarassment that it caused my parents (90% of the suckage) - and while I still managed to make bad choices and get into trouble at a fairly regular basis - in hindsight I'm glad it happened as it changed the way that I made decisions [taking their potential impact on other people into account, for one] and served as a generally useful inocculation against various other mistakes of a higher caliber. Also took a bit of the pressure off that I'd been putting on myself to maintain the straight-A boyscout thing, which was pretty much toast at that point, which also helped transform the response to future incidents from overwhelming shock and dismay to a weary/stoic "Alright...[sigh]...what'd you get into this time.." kind of vibe, which was also beneficial in the long run.

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Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

No it wouldnt and you know that, two completly different things you cant compare it to the most dangerous thing available and say see..

 

but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

way way way to much tv man, kids who come from good families can experiment and figure shit out with out too much harm.

 

life is about experimenting and figuring shit out, if you subscribe to the do it once and your addicted then your mistaken

did you experiment with playing in traffic? If not, please do so and report back at earliest convenience or have nearest surviving relative forward obiturary for my reading pleasure...

:fahq:

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I don't have an actuary handy, Bill, but I'd be willing to go out on a limb here and wager that sustaining the coke-intake has a much better chance of ruining the average teenager's life than the average parent's response.

 

I got caught drinking at a school dance 13 and that was probably the single most painful event of my young life, between ruining the straight-A/boyscout halo-thing that I had going on (10%), and the pain, distress, and embarassment that it caused my parents (90% of the suckage) - and while I still managed to make bad choices and get into trouble at a fairly regular basis - in hindsight I'm glad it happened as it changed the way that I made decisions [taking their potential impact on other people into account, for one] and served as a generally useful inocculation against various other mistakes of a higher caliber. Also took a bit of the pressure off that I'd been putting on myself to maintain the straight-A boyscout thing, which was pretty much toast at that point, which also helped transform the response to future incidents from overwhelming shock and dismay to a weary/stoic "Alright...[sigh]...what'd you get into this time.." kind of vibe, which was also beneficial in the long run.

...except you're now on the east coast! BAWHAHAHA :lmao: talk about ruining your life...

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Well, I'm a student, a major nerd, and an iPod lover........

 

Could it be that your lecture sucked so bad that Slayer was the only way out for her?

it very well coulda been :)

 

coke's not pot...every person i ever knew that got into coke at a young age went down in flames big time

 

anyway, the law's clear enough - this kinda stuff has to be reported to admin

 

not sure how Big Bro it is - mostly i like looking at kids ipods just to see what kinda music they're swinging too these days - i looked at one once revealing the kid was a mega-bon-jovi fan - i had no idea what to think about that :)

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Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

No it wouldnt and you know that, two completly different things you cant compare it to the most dangerous thing available and say see..

 

but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

way way way to much tv man, kids who come from good families can experiment and figure shit out with out too much harm.

 

life is about experimenting and figuring shit out, if you subscribe to the do it once and your addicted then your mistaken

did you experiment with playing in traffic? If not, please do so and report back at earliest convenience or have nearest surviving relative forward obiturary for my reading pleasure...

:fahq:

 

Forgive him, he's obviously Canadian.

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did you experiment with playing in traffic? If not, please do so and report back at earliest convenience or have nearest surviving relative forward obiturary for my reading pleasure...

 

huh...thats your reply, I should go play in traffic..you must offer your kids a well balanced picture of life. Thats awesome!!

 

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Ya I am canadian and I am fully aware of our much laxer approach to drugs, and I really dont see the problem with it.

 

 

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Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

No it wouldnt and you know that, two completly different things you cant compare it to the most dangerous thing available and say see..

 

but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

way way way to much tv man, kids who come from good families can experiment and figure shit out with out too much harm.

 

life is about experimenting and figuring shit out, if you subscribe to the do it once and your addicted then your mistaken

 

 

These were kids from good families. I don't buy the try-it-once-and-you're-automatically-addicted line either, but snorting coke at 15 suggests poor decision making, impulse-control, and peer-group dynamics that don't exactly suggest platonic, clinical-study level restraint is the most likely outcome for teenagers that fit into this category.

 

BTW, which part of the comparison did you object to? The delivery method [Powdered cocaine vs crack vs syringe]- or the equation with meth and/or heroin? I'm certainly no expert, but these seem like relatively fine distinctions to me. The demographics of the hospital that my wife works at skews things to the crack side a bit, but even allowing for that, the level of fucked-up, miserable crack-heads that shuffle through the door seems to be right up there with the fucked-up, miserable junkies that they deal with.

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Highlight of my day: getting seriously eye F@#$ED in the lab.......

 

If it was that serious, the highlight of your day shouldn't be getting eye fucked. . . 8D

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but snorting coke at 15 suggests poor decision making, impulse-control, and peer-group dynamics that don't exactly suggest platonic, clinical-study level restraint is the most likely outcome for teenagers that fit into this category.

 

quite possibly but the problem here would be as you suggest:

poor decision making, impulse-control, and peer-group dynamics

not doing coke.

 

A kid with those skills can make those descions quite easily.

 

Puffin a doob or possibly a line are quite social things, hittin te crak pipe and stickn a needle in your arm are quite different with quite different out comes.

 

 

just so you know you have

Coke

Base Rock

and Crack rock

 

Coke is coke

Base is coke cooked to remove impurities..expensive

crack is a few steps before coke in the making process..Dirty and cheap

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I know a number of people that have snorted coke, or at least they did for a while. All of these folks might possibly do it again on a rare occasion. Today all of them are doing fine; some of them are even parents. What they did was illegal, but they seem to be doing just fine in life.

 

On the other hand I know people into coke that went over the deep end and sufferd the concequences.

 

I don't think you can make blanket statements about folks based on what they did at one time.

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STFU already about the coke people, you don't even know it was coke.

 

But it's an interesting take on the privacy issue. Before the days of ipod, if a student were looking at photos in class, and the teacher confiscated them, he/she would never be challenged for looking at them. But suppose the student instead put the photos back into an envelope before handing them over. Is the teacher allowed to open the envelope? Kind of hard to argue "no." I mean, unless the student says something like "there are private and embarrasing photos in here, please don't look at them."

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My chemistry prof. is super hot...... I ALWAYS sit in front...... I bet she'd take my iPod away.....

 

I should test this.

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Would the response be the same if the said coke happened to be consumed via crack-pipe or syringe? How 'bout heroin or meth?

 

No it wouldnt and you know that, two completly different things you cant compare it to the most dangerous thing available and say see..

 

but an unscientific mental survey of the few people that I was aware of in high-school that were into coke or drugs of that strata reveals that ~80% turned into fucked-up losers of the highest order. Like "running off with all of the savings and all of the wife's painkillers to score more coke/meth/oxycontin when she's all of 24-hours post-op" [really happened]fucked up.

 

way way way to much tv man, kids who come from good families can experiment and figure shit out with out too much harm.

 

life is about experimenting and figuring shit out, if you subscribe to the do it once and your addicted then your mistaken

did you actualy do any drugs when you were in high school? becuzse i did. and not really that hard core... but hard core enough to have lost too many friends to drug OD's and other metal fucked up shit from having done too many drugs and fucked up there whole life. i can think of two guys i knew off the top of my head who blew their brains out.

 

you know i am stunned at how many peaople are shocked and appaled that there is access to guns and they should be illigal but think that drugs are just fine. drugs kill just as much if not more than guns do.

 

having done the the things i have done and seen the things i have done and sufferd the consequences i think drugs should be legal for those over 18. and i will never ever put shit up my nose again period. or in my vaine but i never did that.

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My grade 8 teacher confiscated a video (VHS back then) from a students locker, took it home and watched it. Turned out to be hard-core porn.

 

A deal was then made: The student (male) would wear a dress at school for an entire day and the parents would not find out (else, the parents would find out). Sure enough, he wore a dress the entire day.

 

Not sure if this can be used in your case, but its a funny story.

 

PS the guy was not me

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