Infinite Bliss

[tvashtarkatena]

Every time you clip a bolt, Hitler kills a baby gorilla.

[JosephH]

Big in Europe, now creeping through the U.S.

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Bolts are the number one cause of global warming and gorilla infant mortality.

[tvashtarkatena]

Every hour you spend not chopping bolts is an hour of life lost for a redwood tree.

[tvashtarkatena]

This is the most important issue of our time. Anyone who does not care about how bolting is destroying the planet should look a crying mother gorilla whose baby has just been killed by a fallen redwood in the eyes.

[NTM]

for every bolt you chop, i will put 3 in, just to remind you that you are doing more harm than good. that way you are directly responsible for the over bolting in this area

[tvashtarkatena]

We must all spend every waking minute chopping bolts, starting now, if we are to avert a global catastrophe. There is absolutely nothing more important one can do with one's time at this late juncture.

[tvashtarkatena]

I, for one, cannot believe any of you would treat this issue in any manner other than with the gravity it deserves. Humanity stands at the brink of the abyss, staring down the loaded chuck of a gas powered drill into a dismal, bolt-choked future.

[tvashtarkatena]

Where will this visual assault on the purity of Mother Nature end? Shall we spray paint the Grand Canyon safety orange? Turn Crater Lake into a laser lit computer controlled fountain? St. Helens into a NASCAR track?

 

And the lichens? What of the lichens that have been lost to the unsatiated appetite of the drill?

[G-spotter]

[JosephH]

Is the conversation making you uncomfortable?

[olyclimber]

do you like via ferrata?

and getting caught in the rain?

if you're not into yoga, if you have half a brain

come with me and escape

[RogerJ]

I'd settle for a big umbrella and wind screen over and around Mt Hood.

[tvashtarkatena]

And how dare any of you accuse deeply concerned environmental advocates such as myself, who have spent so much valuable time trying to reverse the destructive tide of bolts, of a neurotic, masturbatory effort to satisfy my need to force other climbers to conform to my obviously superior ethics? How many of you walk the path of purity from your grass hut to the trailhead, as I do, stepping gently to avoid crushing any mites or redwood seedlings that may cross my path? How many of you have lovingly carried small baggies filled with soil and lichen to fill the bolt, no BULLET holes, so heartlessly punched into Mother Nature's temples of rock?

[tvashtarkatena]

Is the conversation making you uncomfortable?

 

Uncomfortable? Ask a starving baby gorilla that depends on tender lichen for it's sustenance!

[tvashtarkatena]

I'd like a Via Ferrata, but I can only afford a Subaru.

[tvashtarkatena]

Redwoods!

[TrogdortheBurninator]

Does rap bolting make you uncomfortable, Mr. Lebowski?

The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Rap Bolting.

 

[tvashtarkatena]

If Al Gore had half a conscience he'd be organizing Earth Aid Routes!

[kevbone]

Thanks trashtalkinkena for all the added spray, buy which side do you fall under? You are clearly not clear about it.

[JosephH]

My, my, clipping bolts really does help you develop a delicate sensibility. Via ferratas, MLUs, and access restrictions come right along in the wake of disasters like IB and your righteous indignation at the mere suggestion you don't have a god-given entitlement to risk-free climbing. Have to wonder how many of you would be climbers tomorrow if bolts evaporated tonight. Not many I suspect.

[tvashtarkatena]

I propose a new calendar: BIBD (Before IB Disaster) and AIBD. It was this watershed moment, when the world held it's breath, that spawned the MLU madness that is currently robbing our freedoms far more effectively than any terrorists could ever dream of doing!

[Off_White]

 

The via ferrata climbs above Ogden - three abrupt lines built last fall under the management of Jeff Lowe, a world renowned climber - are part of Waterfall Canyon Climbing Park, a private preserve owned by Chris Peterson, a businessman in the area. They are the nation's newest via ferrata routes.

 

linky

 

 

It doesn't seem to be folks like the IB first ascensionists who are putting up Via Ferrata in the US, but rather old school folk like Jeff Lowe and Ron Olevsky. Joe, perhaps you'll want to give them a stern talking to at Sushifest.

[JosephH]

Off, no problem on that front. I've read about Jeff's motivation relative to their creation - I simply disagree with him and others doing so and have no problem saying it to theirs or anyone else's face. That the via ferrata drive in the U.S. is taking place on private land makes perfect sense as will the drive to establish via ferratas in the Valley, Smith, Eldo, Devils Tower and other areas on public land.

 

That drive will arrive in the exact same logic Kevin is using for IB - that to not allow via ferratas on [public] crags is an act of denying people their right [and entitlement] to climb. Kevin wants to climb IB on bolts - someone else is going to want to climb the Nose on a cable. He has no right to dictate how they climb and the question they'll pose is: exactly how does a via ferrata harm anyone? There is no difference whatsoever. And if you think one doesn't lead to the other; or that via ferratas aren't the logical, if not inevitable, extension of gyms and [commercialized] sport climbing, then you're all more naive and tripping harder than I thought.

 

When that day comes, just remember it's a bigger world than your ancient, backwards, and elitist sport climbing era - if you don't want to step on that rung or clip that cable then don't. And don't bitch about imaginary problems of via ferrata installations "harming" the rock because they don't and the rest of your complaints will just be "ideas" without substance. And, hell, who's going to care what a few of you whining old losers think anyway.

[G-spotter]

I seem to recall seeing a via ferrata up Half Dome already