Limit freedom of creative expression?

[olyclimber]

those are the things that separate us from the commies. its why we had to win the Cold War. otherwise the commie bureaucracy would be doing evil stuff like that to us right now.

[olyclimber]

you are so special.

[tvashtarkatena]

I heart freedom.

[olyclimber]

do i spreak african? no. do I speak asian? no.

i speak american.

[kevbone]

freedom.

 

Didnt Braveheart say that?

[sobo]

Yeah, right before he lost his head. Hate it when that happens...

[JayB]

One important distinction that seems to be missing from most of the commentary that accompanies these episodes is that Islam is a system of beliefs that one voluntarily adheres to, not a racial category that one is confined to. Once anyone is old enough to think for themselves, remaining a Muslim is a matter of choice, not an accident of one's birth.

 

I am not terribly surprised that CAIR and others have adopted the tactic of attempting to exempt their beliefs from debate and scrutiny by claiming that any criticism or suspicion of Muslims is analogous to racial persecution. What does surprise me is how well this strategy has worked for them. They've largely succeeded in transmogrifying a debate about an ideology into a parable of racial victimhood.

 

 

[mtn_mouse]

Did somebody hear a mouse fart?

 

It's not the sound that's so bad, it's the smell.

[archenemy]

One important distinction that seems to be missing from most of the commentary that accompanies these episodes is that Islam is a system of beliefs that one voluntarily adheres to, not a racial category that one is confined to. Once anyone is old enough to think for themselves, remaining a Muslim is a matter of choice, not an accident of one's birth.

 

I am not terribly surprised that CAIR and others have adopted the tactic of attempting to exempt their beliefs from debate and scrutiny by claiming that any criticism or suspicion of Muslims is analogous to racial persecution. What does surprise me is how well this strategy has worked for them. They've largely succeeded in transmogrifying a debate about an ideology into a parable of racial victimhood.

 

Well said.

[olyclimber]

jay_b says it all well. he even uses big words like he knows what he's talking about. someday i'm going to be just like him.

[archenemy]

PM me on that day, will ya?

[olyclimber]

jay, the apple almost never falls far from the tree. except in america, where our cultural fabric consists of ripped fishnet stockings.

[olyclimber]

someday i'm going to grow a set and return the tarps in the trunk of my car.

[sobo]

One important distinction that seems to be missing from most of the commentary that accompanies these episodes is that Islam is a system of beliefs that one voluntarily adheres to, not a racial category that one is confined to. Once anyone is old enough to think for themselves, remaining a Muslim is a matter of choice, not an accident of one's birth.

 

I am not terribly surprised that CAIR and others have adopted the tactic of attempting to exempt their beliefs from debate and scrutiny by claiming that any criticism or suspicion of Muslims is analogous to racial persecution. What does surprise me is how well this strategy has worked for them. They've largely succeeded in transmogrifying a debate about an ideology into a parable of racial victimhood.

 

Well said.

 

I concur.

[tvashtarkatena]

They've largely succeeded in transmogrifying a debate about an ideology into a parable of racial victimhood.

 

 

Radical technology was required.

[crazy_t]

The show is lame. (imho!)

[Dechristo]

I'd prescribe concerned groups, of similar ethnic/religio persuasions and the news media, highlight and extend effort toward publicizing the protestation of violence and terrorism by those in kind rather than take this route.

 

Better to light a candle than curse the darkness.

[sexual_chocolate]

One important distinction that seems to be missing from most of the commentary that accompanies these episodes is that Islam is a system of beliefs that one voluntarily adheres to, not a racial category that one is confined to. Once anyone is old enough to think for themselves, remaining a Muslim is a matter of choice, not an accident of one's birth.

 

I am not terribly surprised that CAIR and others have adopted the tactic of attempting to exempt their beliefs from debate and scrutiny by claiming that any criticism or suspicion of Muslims is analogous to racial persecution. What does surprise me is how well this strategy has worked for them. They've largely succeeded in transmogrifying a debate about an ideology into a parable of racial victimhood.

 

 

 

what muslim beliefs are you referring to, when you talk about muslims and their choices regarding their muslim cultural and religious identity? what beliefs should they discard?

 

 

it doesn't seem to me that they are saying any criticism or suspicion is analogous to racial persecution. we are talking about a specific tv show with specific depictions with a specific set of inclusions and omissions, right?

 

so that would be two questions.

 

 

[Crux]

come up with a word to describe people that want to kill you other than "muslim" and everyone will be happy.

Word: "Christian"

[archenemy]

come up with a word to describe people that want to kill you other than "muslim" and everyone will be happy.

Word: "Christian"

[KaskadskyjKozak]

come up with a word to describe people that want to kill you other than "muslim" and everyone will be happy.

Word: "Christian"

 

That's funny, it's the atheists who've got the highest body count in human history.

[archenemy]

Really? How can that be while they are in the minority?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Really? How can that be while they are in the minority?

 

power and threat of death by the state.

[tvashtarkatena]

come up with a word to describe people that want to kill you other than "muslim" and everyone will be happy.

Word: "Christian"

 

That's funny, it's the atheists who've got the highest body count in human history.

 

That's the most moronic statement you've ever made, which is really saying something. Stalin's body count (and we all know who you're talking about, because every one of your arguments somehow manages to wind its way back to The Boss)had little to do with his atheism and a lot to do with the same kind of hard core ideologies that you, until very recently, so admired in our present administration.

 

 

[kevbone]

manages to wind its way back to The Boss

 

the boss eh....