strumpett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Posted January 5, 2007 strumpett-- i am not going to open the "why" or "why not" vaccinate can of worms. as a parent and someone working in research related to vaccines, I can not endorse your failure to vaccinate. I am mostly worried about side effects. A 2 month old baby is too young to receive shots. In my opinion. How ever that opinion (to not vaccinate) may change later on. Right now, still gathering information on yeah or neah! Once again, thanks for all the impute, even the spray. Minx. What is it you do? If you don’t mine me asking! Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 It's strange to watch the kid wiggle his tongue right before he latches on. Rather like a round worm trying to gain purchase. Quote
Couloir Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Rather like a round worm trying to gain purchase. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I hear that Homeland Security now requires roundworms returning from Nepal to show valid passports. Quote
G-spotter Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 It's strange to watch the kid wiggle his tongue right before he latches on. Rather like a round worm trying to gain purchase. i was thinking more like a brazilian banker in a green banana hammock Quote
chucK Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 With respect to Seattle Public Schools, you don't need to do anything but sign a form saying you don't want your child vaccinated and you might be asked to fill in the reason why. And even if you don't, it's not like they've got anyone with time enough to track you down and boot your kid out of school. They are so strapped for workers/money that they've got enough to do just getting the floors swept. Our daughter had a bad reaction to one of the two-part vaccines so we didn't get the second one. But other than a situation like that (where you have good reason to believe that your child in particular may be injured by the vaccination), I'd advocate getting the recommended vaccines. You'll be doing your part for society and you and your child may even directly benefit from it. Quote
gertlush Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 What about the risk of the CIA using vaccines as a vehicle for some kind of mind control serum? I think that alone is reason enough not to get them done. You should also definitely purchase a tinfoil hat. Quote
ericb Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I knew a woman like that, too. Mom and child called it "mommy snacks". Disturbing. Yikes....5...you win. My previous record was friend of my wife's in Berkeley.....3. "Booba" was the code word. While you got me on age, consider that her and her hippieish friend used to babysit for each other. Let's just say that it's weird enough seeing a woman breastfeeding a 3-year-old, but this is one timeshare arrangement you don't want to hear about. Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 wet nurses were pretty common at one time; might be still, for all I know. Quote
layton Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 not vaccinating you kid is like not paying your taxes because you don't like the current government. It's not all about your child, it's about the society. We'd still have polio and smallpox if people were so selfish. It bet you'd say your baby was old enough for a needle if it was full of antibiotics to save it's life from whatever you didn't vaccinate it from. Although disturbing and creepy, breastfeeding your kid until it's 3 is very healthy for the child. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) Does that come with a mono-adaptor? Edited January 5, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 G-spotter, you have children? I don't think G-spotter has adopted. Quote
JayB Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Sorry, Strumpett. I am going to give you some unsolicited feedback on your choice. Failing to vaccinate your children is both irresponsible and irrational. The only reason that people have the luxury of engaging in such idiocy without putting their own children at risk is because of the actions of others who have been vaccinated or have had their children vaccinated. This has all but eliminated the diseases that would otherwise ravage children unfortunate enough to be born to parents who are misguided enough to withhold vaccines from them. When and if there's a significant percentage of children cruising around without immunity to these diseases, this will no longer be true. Unfortunately if this situation ever comes about, it will be the children, rather than their parents, that will bear the brunt of the suffering when the inevitable outbreak takes its toll. Quote
strumpett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Posted January 5, 2007 With respect to Seattle Public Schools, you don't need to do anything but sign a form saying you don't want your child vaccinated and you might be asked to fill in the reason why. And even if you don't, it's not like they've got anyone with time enough to track you down and boot your kid out of school. They are so strapped for workers/money that they've got enough to do just getting the floors swept. Our daughter had a bad reaction to one of the two-part vaccines so we didn't get the second one. But other than a situation like that (where you have good reason to believe that your child in particular may be injured by the vaccination), I'd advocate getting the recommended vaccines. You'll be doing your part for society and you and your child may even directly benefit from it. Thank you for your imput. Quote
Macson Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I have to say that I applaud you for not simply doing what you're told and making sure you feel educated enough about the decision before allowing others to alter your child. That said, in the case of vacines I think that with enough research you'll end up deciding that the pros outweigh the cons and that it's the right thing to do for both your child and society. I can only hope that when your child is older you exercise the same care and diligence by not just "caving in" when people try to make parenting decisions for you (like drugging your kid to mask ineffective teaching methods). Quote
selkirk Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 There's actually some serious concern about a polio resuurgance in India due to low vaccination rates. linkity link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15236897/ Quote
joblo7 Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 do what YOU FEEL is right ! THAT may save your child's life. Quote
strumpett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Posted January 5, 2007 I have to say that I applaud you for not simply doing what you're told Thank you for the kind words. As far as doing what we are told. Every time we see the pedestrian, she spends the first 25 minute of the 30 minute visit spewing propaganda about why we need to vaccinate. It’s a little disturbing. It makes me wonder who writes her paychecks. The vaccine company’s? We will not be seeing her anymore. Once again, thanks all for the input. It’s a very serious and personal choice to be made and not one to be taken lightly. Quote
JayB Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 How do you all feel about parents who do refuse to treat their children's life threatening medical conditions, like diabetes, because they've elevated their personal convictions over medical facts that have been established beyond all doubt? Ritalin is one thing, vaccination is another. Critical thinking about debatable benefits when the data is preliminary and ambiguous is one thing, irrational delusions that fly in the face of both common sense and indisputable medical fact are another. Quote
foraker Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Critical thinking about debatable benefits when the data is preliminary and ambiguous is one thing, irrational delusions that fly in the face of both common sense and indisputable medical fact are another. Listen to the man. Quote
ericb Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) How do you all feel about parents who do refuse to treat their children's life threatening medical conditions, like diabetes, because they've elevated their personal convictions over medical facts that have been established beyond all doubt? Ritalin is one thing, vaccination is another. Critical thinking about debatable benefits when the data is preliminary and ambiguous is one thing, irrational delusions that fly in the face of both common sense and indisputable medical fact are another. Don't listen to JayB....his cronies secretly planted explosives in the WTC in the biggest cover up know to modern man Edited January 5, 2007 by ericb Quote
JayB Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I have to say that I applaud you for not simply doing what you're told Thank you for the kind words. As far as doing what we are told. Every time we see the pedestrian, she spends the first 25 minute of the 30 minute visit spewing propaganda about why we need to vaccinate. It’s a little disturbing. It makes me wonder who writes her paychecks. The vaccine company’s? We will not be seeing her anymore. Once again, thanks all for the input. It’s a very serious and personal choice to be made and not one to be taken lightly. You'd better be ready to do a hell of a lot of searching if you're out to find a board certified pediatrician who is going to concur with your analysis of the risks and benefits associated with vaccination. Maybe they have an office next door to the physicist has some doubts about the existence of gravity. Quote
JayB Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 How do you all feel about parents who do refuse to treat their children's life threatening medical conditions, like diabetes, because they've elevated their personal convictions over medical facts that have been established beyond all doubt? Ritalin is one thing, vaccination is another. Critical thinking about debatable benefits when the data is preliminary and ambiguous is one thing, irrational delusions that fly in the face of both common sense and indisputable medical fact are another. Don't listen to JayB....his cronies secretly planted explosives in the WTC in the biggest cover up know to modern man Wolfowitz just elbowed me, pointed to the screen and said "Shh." Quote
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