Dr_Flush_Amazing Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! Move to S. Africa then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tivoli_mike Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Enjoy the gun battles between Taxi drivers. I was in Botswana in '99 and alot of Boers were leaving the country as fast as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! Move to S. Africa then. You righty tightys would love their gun laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Yeah, but some of the fun is gone ever since they got rid of the apartheid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 We were last to catch on about slavery, too. It's The Man, keepin' us down again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 slavery is alive still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 slavery is alive still shh! we need to focus exclusively on the variety that ended in the U.S. 140 years ago. it's such a useful tool for demagoguery and politics of divisiveness. that message would be watered down by contemporary examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 what broad vision. one contemporary issue and all of a sudden the whole country is more 'progressive' than the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) Anyone heard of the Dutch Santa Claus. They celebrate on December 5th, kinda like Christmas. Only, their Santa Claus (Sinter Klaas) uses black slaves (Zwarte Peiten or Black Pete's) instead of reindeer to drive his sled and hand out presents. They were the major exporters of slaves to the US anyway. Kind of odd. Since no black Dutch participate, the caucasions die their skin brown and celebrate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas Edited November 14, 2006 by Weekend_Climberz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tivoli_mike Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Actually they are Moors, given Saint Nicholas's origin in Spain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 slavery is alive still Not state sanctioned slavery. But if you want to use that as a measure, a labor contractor for farm workers was convicted of slavery within in the late 1990's right here in the good ole' U.S. of A. The 'other kind' happens here, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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underworld Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 the whole country is more 'progressive' than the U.S. ??? the title of the thread: "America!...less progressive than S. Africa" sounds like an absolute - yet was based on, at least in this thread, one contemporary issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 slavery is alive still it's such a useful tool for demagoguery and politics of divisiveness. ...as you never fail to demonstrate. Historical knowledge is also useful for the politics of egalitarianism. One man's divisiveness is another man's unification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 fuck everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 slavery is alive still Not state sanctioned slavery. But if you want to use that as a measure, a labor contractor for farm workers was convicted of slavery within in the late 1990's right here in the good ole' U.S. of A. The 'other kind' happens here, too. Slavery was abolished in these nations in these years: Sweden, including Finland: 1335 (but not until 1847 in the colony of St Barthélemy) Portugal: 1761 England and Wales: In practice, 1772, as a result of Somersett's case; although the legal effect of this was much more limited; see Slavery at common law Scotland: 1776 as a result of Wedderburne's case[1] Vermont: 1777, Commonwealth of Vermont, an independent republic created after the American Revolution, on July 8th 1777. Vermont joined the United States of America in 1791. Haiti: 1791, due to a revolt among nearly half a million slaves Upper Canada: 1793, by Act Against Slavery France (first time): 1794-1802, including all colonies (although abolition was never carried out in some colonies under British occupation) Chile: 1811 partially, and in 1823 for all who remained as slave and "whoever slave setting a foot on chilean soil". Argentina: 1813 Gran Colombia (Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, and Venezuela): 1821, through a gradual emancipation plan (Colombia in 1852, Venezuela in 1854) Mexico: 1829 British Empire: 1833, including all colonies (with effect from 1 August 1834; in East Indies from 1 August 1838) Mauritius: 1 Feb 1835, under the British government. This day is a public holiday. Denmark: 1848, including all colonies France (second time): 1848, including all colonies Peru: 1851 Romania: 1855 The Netherlands: 1863, including all colonies, but kept using 'Recruits' from Africa until 1940 The United States: 1865, after the U.S. Civil War (Several states abolished slavery for themselves at various dates between 1777 and 1864) Puerto Rico 1873 and Cuba: 1880 (both were colonies of Spain at the time) Brazil: 1888 Korea: 1894 (hereditary slavery ended in 1886) Zanzibar: 1897 (slave trade abolished in 1873) China: 1910 Burma: 1929 Ethiopia: 1936, by order of the Italian occupying forces (see Second Italo-Abyssinian War). After Ethiopia regained independence in 1942 during World War II, Emperor Haile Selassie did not re-establish slavery. Tibet: 1959, by order of the People's Republic of China Saudi Arabia: 1962 Mauritania: July 1980 (still formally abolished by French authorities in 1905, then implicitly in the new constitution of 1961 and expressly in October of that year when the country joined the United Nations), actually still practiced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) their Santa Claus (Sinter Klaas) uses black slaves (Zwarte Peiten or Black Pete's) instead of reindeer to drive his sled and hand out presents. Now Rapper, Tap Dancer, Now Foaty and Fix Ho Mojammed, P Didd and Tupak and Grits, Yo... Edited November 15, 2006 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 [quote The United States: 1865, after the U.S. Civil War (Several states abolished slavery for themselves at various dates between 1777 and 1864) Puerto Rico 1873 and Cuba: 1880 (both were colonies of Spain at the time) Brazil: 1888 Korea: 1894 (hereditary slavery ended in 1886) Zanzibar: 1897 (slave trade abolished in 1873) China: 1910 Burma: 1929 Ethiopia: 1936, by order of the Italian occupying forces (see Second Italo-Abyssinian War). After Ethiopia regained independence in 1942 during World War II, Emperor Haile Selassie did not re-establish slavery. Tibet: 1959, by order of the People's Republic of China Saudi Arabia: 1962 Mauritania: July 1980 Well, at least we beat Burma, Zanzibar, and Mauritania. This reads like our list of 'allies' for Gulf War, The Sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 if people really want to abolish slavery they should abolish marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Phil Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Tibet: 1959, by order of the People's Republic of China Now this is a touchy subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Historical knowledge is vital for the politics of egalitarianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 if people really want to abolish slavery they should abolish marriage. and yet gays want it. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Maybe only the ones into BDSM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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