"We are winning"

[prole]

Nice try, punk. He was talking to a group of kids about the value of education. And he was talking contemptuously about American soldiers - just like you do.

 

Meanwhile, in real news:

 

A bloody month for US troops

103 die in Oct.; Baghdad bomb stokes anger

By Jay Price, Mcclatchy Newspapers | October 31, 2006

 

BAGHDAD -- The American death toll for October climbed past 100, a grim milestone as a White House envoy turned up unexpectedly in Baghdad yesterday following a rough patch in US-Iraqi ties. At least 81 people were killed yesterday across Iraq, including 33 in a bombing targeting workers.

 

Three soldiers were killed in or near Baghdad yesterday: a member of the 89th Military Police Brigade in east Baghdad, a soldier hit by small arms fire during combat in a western district, and a soldier whose vehicle was struck by a roadside bomb just south of the city. Those deaths raised to 103 the number of US service members killed in a bloody October, the deadliest month for Americans in nearly two years. At least 2,816 American forces have died since the war began in March 2003.

 

According to an Associated Press count, October has also recorded more Iraqi civilian deaths -- 1,170 as of yesterday-- than any other month since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

 

Misplaced your righteous condemnation again FW? I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find it.

[Fairweather]

I'll be in Bellingham Saturday. Maybe I'll express it in person.

[Dechristo]

He was talking about Bush, you pathetic cretin.

 

Geez, Prole...and you talk about convoluted.

 

Kerry was a dumbfuck for making that statement; guess he got caught up in the particular atmosphere of sensibility, as all short-sighted, opportunisticpoliticians are want to do.

[Jim]

Prole = John Kerrey?

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15499174/

 

 

 

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

 

Arrogance of the left on display - again.

 

Excellent!! You're more pedictable than gravity!! Fine excecution of the Republican playbook, chaper 1, 2, 3, etc. When you have to run away from all the issues, and when in doubt, smear.

[underworld]

umm...wasn't kerry doing the smearing? whether it was the troops or bush - he was smearing.

[cj001f]

umm...wasn't kerry doing the smearing? whether it was the troops or bush - he was smearing.

 

Kerry can't climb slabs.

[tvashtarkatena]

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get us stuck in Iraq."...like president Bush.

 

 

Kerry claims he flubbed a potshot at Bush by omitting the key words above. A screw up for sure, but hardly a significant driver in this election. It did speak to the larger divide between the 'arrogant' and the 'ignorant', the simpleton's lens through which the far left and far right view each other. As for the big deal the GOP is making of it, that's to be expected from a party that's pissing it's pants searching for something, anything to sell to the electorate. When in doubt, reach for that econo-sized bottle of anti-liberal sentiment.

 

At least the GOP is defending marriage (in rhetorical terms, at least), even if they can't defend the country.

[underworld]

bush did better in school than kerry...fyi

 

so are we now handing out muligans for mis-speaking? or just if a democrat does it? we can revisit some bush bashing that was based on him forgetting a word or two.

[Jim]

ummm it's unpatrotic, no it's related to gay marriage, and ah, taxes, higher taxes!!! And terror!!

 

Oh they are scatching hard for anything aren't they?

 

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[KaskadskyjKozak]

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get us stuck in Iraq."...like president Bush.

 

 

Kerry claims he flubbed a potshot at Bush by omitting the key words above. A screw up for sure, but hardly a significant driver in this election. It did speak to the larger divide between the 'arrogant' and the 'ignorant', the simpleton's lens through which the far left and far right view each other. As for the big deal the GOP is making of it, that's to be expected from a party that's pissing it's pants searching for something, anything to sell to the electorate. When in doubt, reach for that econo-sized bottle of anti-liberal sentiment.

 

At least the GOP is defending marriage (in rhetorical terms, at least), even if they can't defend the country.

 

Kerry was the nominee for the Democratic party 2 short years ago. His comments are perfect fodder for the election less than a week away. It reminds people exactly what the democrats stand for - you know, what they actually think once you lift the thin veneer of pretending to support the military and be patriotic.

[tvashtarkatena]

so are we now handing out muligans for mis-speaking? or just if a democrat does it? we can revisit some bush bashing that was based on him forgetting a word or two.

 

Democrat or Republican, when a president fucks up his lines it produces a few more consequences.

[catbirdseat]

Kerry is a professional politician. These guys presumably got to where they are by not making stupid flubs. Stupid remarks like Kerry's are like a quarterback throwing interceptions. Too many and you get benched.

[tvashtarkatena]

It reminds people exactly what the democrats stand for - you know, what they actually think once you lift the thin veneer of pretending to support the military and be patriotic.

 

Whatever the Democratic party stands for, it seems that a majority of voters agree with it these days. I seriously doubt that anyone would change their vote because of Kerry's 'reminder' of liberal arrogance, a schtick that's bought only by those who'd never vote Democrat under any circumstances anyway.

Edited November 1, 2006 by tvashtarkatena

[Jim]

You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

[catbirdseat]

Obviously, one of those rare candid moments we all cherish.

[cj001f]

Woah! Hows that strawman bashing coming cc.com conservatives? Got time for a real issue?

[underworld]

[tvashtarkatena]

Woah! Hows that strawman bashing coming cc.com conservatives? Got time for a real issue?

 

Are you implying that gay marriage, illegal fruit pickers, and keeping cancer patients seperated from their bongs aren't more important than the war, energy independence, global warming, and nuclear proliferation?

[tvashtarkatena]

 

Now that is fucking hilarious .

[minx]

 

Now that is fucking hilarious .

[Dechristo]

good to see their good humor on display

[chucK]

I seriously doubt this Kerry gaffe is going to hurt any democratic candidates (besides Kerry).

 

No dem-leaning person is going to hold dumbshit Kerry's remarks against their local candidate.

 

On the plus side, democratic candidates in tough races like Harold Ford in Tennessee can disparage Kerry in order to woo the independents and Republicans on the fence. Sort of like McGavick calling for Rumsfeld's resignation. It's a total no-lose situation, noone is going to hold it against Ford for criticizing Kerry.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

It reminds people exactly what the democrats stand for - you know, what they actually think once you lift the thin veneer of pretending to support the military and be patriotic.

 

Whatever the Democratic party stands for, it seems that a majority of voters agree with it these days. I seriously doubt that anyone would change their vote because of Kerry's 'reminder' of liberal arrogance, a schtick that's bought only by those who'd never vote Democrat under any circumstances anyway.

 

National elections are not won by convincing the "true believers" to change their mind. They are won by changing the minds of 2-3% of the voters. Ditto for tight, local races.

[tvashtarkatena]

Elections are won by getting true believers to get off their asses and vote, then going for the soft, chewy center. And I think current estimates for the switch hitter vote is running at more like 15% these days. There's a whole lot of social libertarian/fiscal conservatives that are feeling very unloved right now.

[lI1|1!]

says i think we're going to see a lot of republicans get banninated!