Squid Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I'm pretty interested in the cilogear stuff. Please post again once you've given your new pack a beating. Quote
olyclimber Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Squid, i've got a Cilo pack if you want to check it out. Quote
marylou Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I have one too. You can borrow it if you want, I should have it for the better part of the summer. Quote
John Frieh Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 If you're looking good you're feeling good If you're feeling good, you're climbing good If you're climbing good, you're looking good  If you're not cold you brought too many clothes If you're not hungry you brought too much food And if you summit it was too easy anyways.  Quote
chesterboo Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 So what do you think Oly and ML about the cilo packs? Since I just bought one I will keep my fingers crossed on your reviews Quote
crackers Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 ML's got a 60, but the one she's got is a bit odd...i'll let her fill in the details if she cares to. Â Oly's got a 40, as does distal. Â There are some up in the hands of the canadian contingent here, and a whole bunch in seattle. Quote
marylou Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I've only had mine out for a few trips, so it's too early to really say much. Â What's odd about the 60 I have? Â I asked for a 60 because I will probably have to carry fish fry in it this summer and the extra volume will be useful for that. Quote
billcoe Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Man, I have been proud of getting my load down to 35-40 lbs. IN past doing rainier I have carried 60 plus. IN fact, 5 years ago on Rainier I had 70. How much do you guys carry with a 2 man team on a 2-3 day ascent of Rainier or you pick the peak? .... Â We might have to discuss how much beer and gear you have with you dude! Sounds like at least a case and are they bottles or cans? Â Seriously, thats a lot of weight. You've probably looked at your gear before, but I'd start by checking the tent. If you have a sweet 4 person mountain dome that might easily be 6 lbs + you could cut right there with a lighter, smaller (and strong) 2 or 2-3 person. Next might be the rope you have. I've carried a rock rope in the mountains out of necessity, but if it's a 10.5 or 60 meter 11 mil that weight adds up as well. Cut the length and the diameter. Lastly, if you like to sleep warm (1 do too) maybe you need a lighter bag? The range of weight from a heavy 4 season polarfill vs like a high loft Western Mountainering or Feathered Friends down fill will add up as well, sleeping in your clothes isn't a bad thing either to add warmth should you go with a lighter bag. Â Wow, 70 lbs. Staggering. You might look in that pack and double check to see if your partner is stuffing a TV, porn collection and a vinyl blow up doll in there when you aren't looking or sumptin like that. Â Good luck, man- you must be strong as an ox. Quote
billcoe Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 What's odd about the 60 I have? Â I asked for a 60 because I will probably have to carry fish fry in it this summer and the extra volume will be useful for that. Â I must have come pre-loaded with fish? That would be odd. Quote
crackers Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 sorry, ML, yours is a little odd because (i think, but then again, i am often wrong at midnight) the center front panel is made from VX21 instead of VX42. Basically, the material where the crampons and axe blades hit is a bit less durable than the material the standard production packs. It's also a teensy bit lighter... Quote
hohm Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I am interested in the Cilogear packs also, and FYI there are some pretty complete writeups on RC.com. For those of you have have one, how well can it really carry 50+ lbs for long distances? The reason I ask is because I have 100 highest-summit fever, and some of the multi-peak slams way back in the Paseyten are week-long affairs. No matter how much I starve myself, the food weight adds up. It would be cool if the pack works as a technical summit pack also, for both snow and rock (Bonanza, Goode type stuff). I almost had my mind set on an Andinista, but now the Cilogear is sounding pretty good. Â So.....any further objective comments would be appreciated (sorry Crackers, you dont count as objective). Quote
hemp22 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I have a cilogear pack too. I recently got a 60L, and haven't really tested it out yet (all I've had in it so far is a rope & rack - used in the compressed mode). But it's light, the fit is great, and the versatility is hard to beat. they're a great deal for the price right now. I wish I could comment already on durability and travel under a heavy load, but I'll hopefully be getting more use out of it soon. But I can say that working with crackers was a good experience... good customer service, helpful and answered all my questions. Quote
Kevin_Ristau Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I bought a Cilogear 60l worksack in february. I have only had it out for a couple of days ice climbing, sans the framesheet and stay, and it carried very well. The pack is very well made and amazingly light compared to a traditional pack. The compression strap system has to be seen to be fully understood - use as many straps as you need to compress the load or shift the load to the hipbelt or shoulders. Also makes lashing stuff to the exterior a breeze. Quote
chesterboo Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 Billcoe and all, How did I get a 70 lb pack. yes I admit it must seem staggering and it felt staggering too. Probably the main reason was that I was going with my 69 year old father and I wanted him to have a relatively "easy" time on way up to Muir. So I, being the loving son that I am, carried a 3 person 4 season 12 pound tent, all the food, all the cooking gear, first aid etc.... rope, etc.... I told him to carryy his cloths and sleeping gear and harness and helmet. I should say that last year on the DC route I went with a friend and my pack leaving paradise was 40 with the rope and water. Friend had the pickets. I have a FF winter wren bag, zrest pad, and jetboil stove. I am really now trying to take less stuff. Oh by the way I now have BD first light tent. 2lbs 9 0z. My thinking is that I can cut 4 lbs off pack weight and be around 35 pound mark. I can prob find a few other things I don't really need too. Quote
bagsers Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 OK, now I'm getting interested in the CiloGear pack too. Any girls out there who have used them? Also, it kinda sounds like there's a learning curve with figuring out how to configure them. Do you have to be a rocket scientist, or are their good instructions? And yes, I RTFM!!! Quote
Fromage Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Slothrop and Fromage:Â What were your sleeping systems? Â Feathered Friends Vireo (one pound) with Feathered Friends Helios Jacket (15 oz) = sub two pounds for a 25-degree sleep system and warm down jacket combo. I sleep on a chopped down Ridge Rest and my pack. My tent weighs zero pounds since I sleep in the hut when I'm on that side of the mountain. Link to Feathered Friends Vireo Quote
Aya Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 OK, now I'm getting interested in the CiloGear pack too. Any girls out there who have used them? Also, it kinda sounds like there's a learning curve with figuring out how to configure them. Do you have to be a rocket scientist, or are their good instructions? And yes, I RTFM!!! Â I'm a girl, and I've used the pack. It's great. Mine came with a girly hipbelt! The pack is super duper light, super configurable, and should be super burly - can't honestly speak to that as I only used it about 3 times out this ice climbing season - I'll use it some more this summer on rock (like maybe this weekend...!). The whole d-clippy system is easy to use, and I don't know if it has a learning curve, per se, but I think that it will probably take some fiddling with and some use before you get it dialed in to exactly how you like to configure it for your activities, because everyone probably likes to carry their loads differently. That's the beauty of the system, you can totally personalize it! Quote
crackers Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 I am actually rewriting the manual this weekend because it has come to my attention that the manual needs improvement. Â I am sure that anybody who has a cilogear pack will say that I am more than willing to answer any question that I can or discuss things... Quote
SandPounder Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I've also purchased the cilo 60. I just can't seem to trust a trip to it yet. I've been using a Dead Bird pack that has never failed me, but is too heavy. The cilo is light. It did wiegh in more than the web site promised. They said 3lb 3oz now they say 3.8 pounds, which is close to what mine weighed at 4.7lbs or 75.5oz. Good customer service via e-mail and phone. Now, I just have to get out there with it! Quote
chesterboo Posted April 2, 2006 Author Posted April 2, 2006 That is a pound more than the advertised . Is this the standard for the industry to have things weigh more than advertised? I have a feathered friends . Winter Wren bag that is "supposed to weight" 35 oz or something and when I put it on the scale it actually weighs 3 lbs. Kind of aggrivating Quote
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