neilgbaird5 Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I know, this always starts a fire storm. We have a group of Rainier veterans who are taking a small group to Ingram Flats for some glacier travel training in prep for a trip to Mt. Cook. We are looking for a couple of porters to haul some crap to Muir, May 23 or 24. neilbaird@comcast.net Quote
dalius Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Porters on Rainier! Ha! That's funny! I suggest telling them peeps that if they're gonna climb Mt. Cook, they need to learn to carry their own weight! Â Although, seeing that I am a money hungry bastard, I'll be pleased to carry a load for a nominal fee of $1000/day. Quote
Mos_Chillin Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Oly? Oly? This might be your calling... Â Quote
Distel32 Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Â Â plus you can have your way with them afterwards Quote
olyclimber Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 My fees are quite high. I require your women, three goats, 7 gallons of chhaang, and a chicken. Additionally, every 100 yards I may sit down and go on strike, demanding pay raise. Quote
Redoubt Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 That's a long way out for anyone to commit. Repost a week or so before you head up and you can probably find someone up for a conditioning slog. As always, making sure any porters have cold beer when they get back to Paradise may help your cause. Quote
mattp Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Dalius, most climbers on Mount Cook fly to the Plateau hut, and I can see why they do. The climb to that hut is pretty gnarly. These climber will NOT have to "carry their own weight" if they are doing the standard route. Quote
cman Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 i am not to familiar with mt cook but presumably there is some climbing involved? maybe carrying some weight around mt. rainier would be good training? even the weakest newbie should be able to carry at least a small pack. Quote
Bronco Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 For those interested I carried a load for Neil a few years ago and he paid cash. I'd do it again. Quote
dt_3pin Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) For those interested, I took Neil's load a few years ago and he paid cash. I'd do it again. Â Edited March 1, 2006 by dt_3pin Quote
mattp Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 The standard route on Mt. Cook involves a climb of about 5,000 vertical feet from the Plateau Hut, up a moderate angle'd glacier for 3,500 feet until you get some steeper snow slopes up to a couple ice or mixed pitches, and then perhaps 1,000 feet of moderately steep and very exposed snow/ice to the summit. The climb is comparable, perhaps, to Ptarmigan Ridge or something. The range is known for quick changes in the weather and, yes, they'll have to carry summit packs for sure. Â To get to the hut involves waking perhaps a mile or two on a huge and hugely broken valley glacier, climbing a steep and scary moraine wall, some rock scrambling, and a bit of glacier climbing -- this approach itself is WAY more of climb then, say, Mt. Shuksan or Eldorado Peak. Â Carrying packs will be the least of their worries, but these guys will want their clients to be in good shape and they are going to want to teach them a little about climbing before they make the trip. I guided a complete novice up that route (a "climbing partner" I recruited at the youth hostel) and determined, in hindsite, that I had no business doing so. Quote
dalius Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 What happened matt? Some close calls on the steep stuff? Recruit not ready for the amount of pain and suffering involved? Quote
dalius Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 neil, why not get your folks to carry their own stuff so they can get used to the pain and suffering? why baby them? Quote
mattp Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Dalius, the climb actually went well and we made reasonable time, but had anything gone wrong we would have been in a world of hurt!!! Â (A pick fell out of my Hummingbird on the summit so we had only three tools between the two of us, but he couldn't have downclimbed anyway so I simply lowered him to the end of the rope, had him hammer in a picket, and then I downclimed six or eight times.) Â Anyway, somebody ought to contact the guy and maybe make some $ or an interesting contact in exchange for making a training hike. Quote
neilgbaird5 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 How are you doing, glad to see you are still climbing. Quote
neilgbaird5 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 Actually we will be having our people carry about 50 lbs each but some of them are older and 100 lbs cuts down on the fun factor for those guys. Quote
neilgbaird5 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 I am not in charge of the New Zealand end but I think we will be taking a helicopter to the hut. We are hoping to bag several of the summits in the area. Doing some canyoneering and scuba as well. Quote
Mos_Chillin Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 My fees are quite high. I require your women for transportation, three goats and a comfortable yurt, 7 gallons of chhaang, and a shaved chicken. Â Â Quote
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