dbb Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Did anyone get to play with one of these at the OR show? looks like they're making another version of the monster that's suited a little more for waterice. Looks cool, wonder what they'll retail for? When will they be available to the public? http://www.grivel.com/Products/Dettaglio_piccozze.asp?ID=21 Quote
John Frieh Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Can one replace the pick? Grivel claimed one didn't need to worry about replacement on the original monster as the pick was so beefy... since they thinned down the pick on this one does this mean I need to worry now? Quote
Fromage Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Dave, I will ask if we can borrow one to play with. As for now, I will have a Nomic review on Monday. Can't wait to play with that... Quote
Figger_Eight Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Nope, still can't replace the pick. I didn't notice a considerable difference in the thickness - a modular pick for this thing is a non-issue. Played with the Nomic today in the shop - pretty sweet tool. Quote
Alex Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 call me a fool, but Id take a Quark Ergo any day over that rediculous contraption Quote
John Frieh Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Ergo for alpine... Nomic for mixed sport. Nice that they have the hole in the handle though I'd like to see the ergo have one. Quote
ken4ord Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Nope, still can't replace the pick. I didn't notice a considerable difference in the thickness - a modular pick for this thing is a non-issue. I don't know about that, I think there is no way I would buy those tools if I couldn't replace the pick. At certain point they are a throw away tool, seems sort of wasteful. Everything else seem really cool. Quote
Dru Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Nope, still can't replace the pick. I didn't notice a considerable difference in the thickness - a modular pick for this thing is a non-issue. I don't know about that, I think there is no way I would buy those tools if I couldn't replace the pick. At certain point they are a throw away tool, seems sort of wasteful. Everything else seem really cool. for all that I use my Pulsars now I could throw them away. i think that'sa the idea here. by the time you wear the pick out there will be a new super cooler tool with a velcro shaft to match your velcro gloves and with a biomorphic design that flicks itself at the ice like a striking cobra so you don't get so pumped with stupid arm whaling away at dinner plates Quote
JoshK Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 That is the most ridiculously stupid looking thing! Quote
Jedi Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 Does anyone have a picture of the Nomic? I hear they are shipping a limited number to the US (100 sets). I was told it was basically a new and improved Ergo. NOLSe: What makes it more of a "mixed" tool than the Ergo? I was thinking of trying leashless waterfall ice this winter and thought about getting a set of Nomics. The 1st available mail order (on the east coast) are due in around the 1st of Nov. Jedi Quote
wdietsch Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 Does anyone have a picture of the Nomic? Quote
Dru Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 wtf is the orange thing in the middle of the pick - is it a bolt on gym hold Quote
Zoran Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Maybe this is the way to add weight to the pick ... Looks like is removable. I am not sure. Just guessing ... Z Quote
Zoran Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Looks like the answer is here: http://www.wantmedia.co.uk/news/PetzlNomic.htm at the bottom left corner ... Quote
JoshK Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 That website uses a more subtle form of technically correct Euro-type engrish. Quote
swaterfall Posted September 21, 2005 Posted September 21, 2005 wtf is the orange thing in the middle of the pick - is it a bolt on gym hold It's a removable weight to give the tool a better swing. I checked one of these out recently. Looks pretty cool, but I'm not sure it's a huge improvement over the ergo. It is going to be cheaper though. Quote
John Frieh Posted September 21, 2005 Posted September 21, 2005 I gotta say stupid place to put the hole in the handle. If one does put some cordage in it for cow tails it will only impact the climber's grasp on the tool. I drilled my ergos right above the lower handle and it seems to be a good spot... no effect on my grip. Maybe I should patent it Quote
kailas Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 Better get a pair Swaterfall!! I hear not many will be in the country until next spring, and then only selected shops will have them. Quote
bigwalling Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 The moster is way wierd, but at least in the gym where I used them I liked it more than the fusion or ergo. This said I have never mixed climbed just fucked around in a gym setting. Quote
John Frieh Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 The moster is way wierd, but at least in the gym where I used them I liked it more than the fusion or ergo. This said I have never mixed climbed just fucked around in a gym setting. Was this a gear demo or did a gym have them for regular use? If so where? Quote
bigwalling Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 It was up in like canmore or banff. They just had a wall and tons of mixed gear for sale. Up there they take that sport beyond serious! Quote
TrogdortheBurninator Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Anybody have a pair of these yet? I was thinking they might be fun as a 2nd set to goof around with and try out some more drytooling. Aside from being hideous, the price is definitely right. Quote
fenderfour Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I think PMS in Seattle has a pair to demo. You might want to ask. Quote
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