KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/02/15/lobster.pain.ap/index.html Quote
Dru Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 tobacco science Robertson said many scientists believe lobsters do feel pain. For instance, a zoologist with The Humane Society of the United States made a written declaration that lobsters can feel pain after a chef dismembered and sauteed a live lobster to prepare a Lobster Fra Diavolo dish on NBC's "Today" show in 1994. It's debatable whether the debate will ever be resolved. pain serves an evolutionary purpose. it is doubtful to my mind whether any creature does NOT feel pain, even bugs or amoebae. more to the point is, they taste good Quote
EWolfe Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 My Lord. How disassociated from the natural world can you get? Have these people even heard of the food chain? Quote
TheJiggler Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 Its fun to watch conservative deal with science. They jump up and down and do press releases every time ANY science backs up thier world view! Quote
iain Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 PETA is way out of control sometimes, but I don't think anyone can look at a Nebraska feedlot and say there's not something wrong with that. Quote
Alpinfox Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 tofu, beans and rice don't feel pain WRONG? PLANTS FEEL PAIN!!! Quote
Dru Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 what about rocks? does the tuff silently scream beneath the drill? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 15, 2005 Author Posted February 15, 2005 Its fun to watch conservative deal with science. They jump up and down and do press releases every time ANY science backs up thier world view! Upon what do you base this comment? Are you stating that the research project was funded by conservatives or undertaken by them? Or that the news release itself was issued by conservatives? I know when I think "Norway", I always think "hard right idealogues". Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 15, 2005 Author Posted February 15, 2005 PETA is way out of control sometimes, but I don't think anyone can look at a Nebraska feedlot and say there's not something wrong with that. We're talking about crustaceans, not bovines. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 15, 2005 Author Posted February 15, 2005 oh no shit? thanks. de rien Quote
Dru Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 PETA is way out of control sometimes, but I don't think anyone can look at a Nebraska feedlot and say there's not something wrong with that. We're talking about crustaceans, not bovines. with modern genetic engineering techniques, the difference may be smaller than you think! Quote
faster_than_you Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 Ah yes Norway, known for animal sensivity,,, like whaling. Do raindrops feel pain when they hit the ground? Does a dropped biner feel pain? Does the Nodder feel pain? Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 What it all comes down to is how you define "pain". Quote
Dru Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 step over here and i can define it for you nicely with this ice tool Quote
Harkin_Banks Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 and how do you define pain cbs? titration elbow? Quote
bunglehead Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 Not to ruin this thread with personal feelings, cuz yous guys is on a roll , but here goes. I worked in restaurants for (waaay too many) years, and it kinda bothered me every time I had to drop a lobster into the pot. Even cooking crayfish kind of bothered me. I'm a BIG PUSSY!! Shrimp however, I seemed to take delight in cooking. I hope those things feel pain. Ick. Shrimp. We now return to your regularly scheduled spray. Quote
ChrisT Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 Not to ruin this thread with personal feelings, cuz yous guys is on a roll , but here goes. I worked in restaurants for (waaay too many) years, and it kinda bothered me every time I had to drop a lobster into the pot. Even cooking crayfish kind of bothered me. I'm a BIG PUSSY!! We already knew that Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 16, 2005 Posted February 16, 2005 and how do you define pain cbs? titration elbow? What I mean is this. Pain as humans understand it, is quite complex. We remember pain. We associate it with many different things. We contemplate it. We make it less or worse depending on our thought processes. Pain is undoubtedly different in lobsters, but is it any less than it is in humans? I don't know. All that matters is how much empathy we happen to feel for them, which isn't much. Quote
specialed Posted February 16, 2005 Posted February 16, 2005 I'm a card carrying member of PETA People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. Yum. Quote
Squid Posted February 16, 2005 Posted February 16, 2005 I love the fact that KK is down with THIS research, but he's holding out on that whole "global warming" research. Quote
Ducknut Posted February 16, 2005 Posted February 16, 2005 pain is eating 2 lobsters when you should have only had one yummmmmmmm Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 16, 2005 Author Posted February 16, 2005 I love the fact that KK is down with THIS research, but he's holding out on that whole "global warming" research. I just hear too many contradictory claims about it (global warming). Everyone has an agenda. To whit. Recently it was revealed that the study that killed DDT was "cooked" - and the part about thin avian egg shells for endangered species was fabricated. The substance could have saved millions of lives in mosquito-infested third-world countries. Fool me once... Personally, I think global warming is occuring, but don't know if we can do anything about it. I'm not opposed to reasonable proactive action now (like raising cafe standards on cars). Quote
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