Pretty Sick

[Dru]

hibernates in winter.

[Jeebus]

it is because of all this unresolved bickering that I have put off my first winter ascent of K2...zzzzzz

[Stefan]

This is similar to the Seven Summits.

 

Some do not consider the high point of Australia to be the high point of the continent. Some consider Carstenz Pyramid to be the high point. The problem is, Carstenz Pyramid is not physically located on a continent.

[cj001f]

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Edited December 14, 2004 by cj001f

[Dru]

This is similar to the Seven Summits.

 

Some do not consider the high point of Australia to be the high point of the continent. Some consider Carstenz Pyramid to be the high point. The problem is, Carstenz Pyramid is not physically located on a continent.

 

The problem is, it is located on a continent. The same continental crust underlies both Australia and New Guinea and the intervening sea is very shallow.

[Stefan]

Dude. Humans have learned there are seven continents. One of them is Australia.

 

We don't learn Australasia.

[Dru]

The poor quality of your schooling does not change reality.

[DPS]

Damn you scientists

[Stefan]

The poor quality of your schooling does not change reality.

 

Scienceman: Is New Guinea an Island or a Continent? Yes, it may lay on a continental shelf, but is it an Island or a Continent?

 

BTW: Anvil Island is called an Island becuase it is an ISLAND even though is it on the continental shelf. Besides, I have been there, done that!

[klenke]

Definition as per Webster's:

CONTINENT: continuous mass of land, mainland.

Random House:

CONTINENT: 1. one of the main land masses of the globe, usually reckoned as seven in number (Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia, and Antarctica). 3. the mainland, as distinguished from islands or peninsulas.

 

Continental crust and continent in my mind are two different things.

Edited December 14, 2004 by klenke

[Dru]

You are making a false distinction. Britain is part of Europe. Vancouver Island is part of North America. In the Mesozoic, when a shallow sea connected Hudson Bay to the Gulf of Mexico, the Appalachians and Rockies were still on the same continent.

 

Hawaii, however, is NOT part of North America.

[iain]

I didn't think this topic could get any worse, yet behold...

[Dru]

You are just jealous at my catch, Mr "Can't Hook CBS" .

[Stefan]

You are making a false distinction. Britain is part of Europe. Vancouver Island is part of North America. In the Mesozoic, when a shallow sea connected Hudson Bay to the Gulf of Mexico, the Appalachians and Rockies were still on the same continent.

 

Hawaii, however, is NOT part of North America.

 

Why does Vancouver Island have the word "Island" in it?

[Dru]

What about Echo Island in Harrison Lake? Hmmm?

[olyclimber]

I wanted to be the first person to climb the highest point on every individual piece of land (including all islands), but I got a late start. In the winter. So far, I haven't got any.

 

It's a bit like measuring the length of the shoreline of a land mass, a fractal problem.

[cj001f]

Definition as per Webster's:

CONTINENT: continuous mass of land, mainland.

Random House:

CONTINENT: 1. one of the main land masses of the globe, usually reckoned as seven in number (Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia, and Antarctica). 3. the mainland, as distinguished from islands or peninsulas.

 

Continental crust and continent in my mind are two different things.

Definition per wikipedia:

Seven Continents: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Oceania, Europe, North America, and South America.

Six Continents: Africa, Antarctica,Oceania, Eurasia, North America, and South America.

Six Continents: Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Oceania, and Europe.

Five Continents: Africa, America, Australasia (Oceania), Antarctica, Eurasia.

Five Continents: Africa, America, Oceania, Europe, Asia.

Four Continents: America,Oceania, Antarctica, Eurafrasia.

[Stefan]

Dru,

 

What is the heighth of Carstenz Pyramid?

[Dru]

You can look it up on Google

 

Hint: Carstensz

[Stefan]

You can look it up on Google

 

Hint: Carstensz

 

I did exactly what you said. Elevation is 4884 meters.

 

I guess that means they measured it from sea level and not plate tectonic level. If it is sea level, then I guess everything underneath sea level doesn't count.

[Stefan]

I was reading the story and it got me wondering...

 

What qualifies as a calendar winter ascent?

 

Not starting the approach until the first day of winter?

 

Starting the approach before the first day of winter but not starting the route until the first day of winter (example: ski to the base and then sit and wait for the first day of winter before starting)?

 

Starting the route prior to the first day of winter but not summiting until the first day of winter (example: climb Liberty Ridge over 3 days and on the third day which also happens to be the first day of winter summit and descend)?

 

What is the definition of a proper calendar winter ascent?

 

Okay, let's say you were climbing Dome Peak in July. Now let's say the same thing happened to the weather as it did in the movie "The Day After Tomorrow". Now would you call that a winter ascent or would you still call it a summer ascent?

[Dru]

Let's say you fly to Hawaii for the winter and drive up Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea (whichever one has the observatory)on February 15. Even if there is no snow, is that an official winter ascent?

[iain]

exactly.

[Jeebus]

and how do winter ascents work in the southern hemisphere? their winter? "insert scratching head smilie" (because I'm too busy scratching my biners)

[cj001f]

and how do winter ascents work in the southern hemisphere? their winter?

Yes.