Peter_Puget Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 CONFRONTATION WITH IRAN LOOMS The President has stated that Iran will not be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. He can be taken at his word. The current diplomatic agreement between Iran and several nations of the EU has no verification mechanism, and will not satisfy the President that Iran has ceased its nuclear weapons program. Having seen the ill effects of a failed diplomatic solution to the North Korean nuclear program, the President will be short on patience for similar negotiated disarmament schemes that miss the mark of full and unconditional disclosure, like that of Libya. Iran will not submit to such disclosure. However the current cabinet shakeup plays out, the Bush Administration will view Iran as a greater threat to US security than Syria. While Syria provides geographic territory, logistical support, and moral support to various terrorist groups, these groups, Hamas and Hezbollah, mainly target Israel and not the United States. While Syria may be the repository of whatever Iraqi weapons were stashed away prior to the invasion, Syria has no nuclear weapons development program. The President and Vice President have clearly stated that the over-riding reason for the invasion of Iraq was the threat to the United States of the "nexus between weapons of mass destruction and terrorist groups." This nexus clearly resides in Iran, which is actively seeking nuclear weapons and has a long history of supporting all manner of terrorist groups, including, from time to time, Al Qaeda. THE TIMING OF US ACTION Before assumptions about the use of US force can be definitively stated, the critical question becomes the time horizon. What to make of this? How to define in time, the event that creates the deadline? Iran will eventually reach a point wherein it has completed the infrastructure and research necessary to manufacture a nuclear weapon. This is the point it must not be allowed to reach. The Atlantic article gives the Iranians 3 years, with many backside-covering qualifications. A recent US News report states three to seven years. Other reports, state as little as 4-6 months before Iran has the break-out stage and can "construct nuclear bombs whenever it wishes." As we all know from the re-election campaign, President Bush was criticized as "rushing to war" in Iraq. Agreeing with the characterization of this decision (that it was poor form to move so quickly) or not is irrelevant. Instead, assume that Bush prefers to err on the side of action, and move quickly. In this case, let us assume the time horizon for his decision is 12-18 months. In the next year and a half, the US, whether alone or with allies, must address the Iranian nuclear program once and for all, or grudgingly admit Iran into the fraternity of nuclear powers, and like it or not, live with its regime for an indefinite period of time. Quote
DPS Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 This clearly calls for a preemptive nuclear strike against Iran. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 What about Brazil? Are we going to attack them too? When is this going to stop? Quote
Stefan Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 When is this going to stop? On January 21, 2009. Quote
jordop Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 That's a nice article there Pete. I especially like the inflammatory, missive, tone: "The President will not . . . shall not . . . ALL WILL KNEEL TREMBLING BEFORE THE PRESIDENT." It's not that I take any issue with the pont of view, on the contrary, YOU'D BE A FHUHKIN MORON NOT TO SEE THAT ONE COMING. Here's why in an easy-to-follow schematic. Fell free to follow along at home kids: Quote
chucK Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 They hate freedom, that's all the justification we need. Quote
AlpineK Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 They hate freedom, that's all the justification we need. No Chuck...the correct line is; they hate our freedoms. Quote
ILuvAliens Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 SWEET JESUS! no, that's GW! Ppbbttt. Same thing. Quote
willstrickland Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 The Chimperor will not tolerate nukular moolahs. Hey Condi, need some wood? Quote
willstrickland Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Shrub thinks to himself "Mmm mmm, check out the junk in her trunk! Booyah!" Meanwhile Ms. Spellings straight freaks the macarena. Might as well get me some of that! Come here baby... Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 18, 2004 Author Posted November 18, 2004 (edited) hmmmm...... ...full in approx. 7 months.... Edited November 18, 2004 by Peter_Puget Quote
Billygoat Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 We can't really invade anyone else so we'll have to nuke them... Quote
cj001f Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Trickle down Oil PP? What good is 35 days supply? Especially when 60% is High Sulfur Oil? Quote
AlpineK Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Trickle down Oil PP? What good is 35 days supply? Especially when 60% is High Sulfur Oil? Cause Bush is going to get rid of all environmental regulations. High sulfer off road diesel. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 hmmmm...... ...full in approx. 7 months.... It seems to be that Bush's strategy for managing the Strategic Reserve has been to buy high, sell low. Quote
chucK Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 This quote from the NY Times article should get a chuckle from both sides of the aisle. "It could also prompt the Bush administration to make good on its threats to haul Iran before the Security Council." Quote
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