Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dru: fast food concept: if its fast, the fact its shit wont matter cause my time is too precious to waste enjoying eating. that said there are times when its nice to grab n go. True, there are times when it's nice to grab 'n' go. Like when you're in Hawthorne, Nevada, and the only place that's open is McDonald's. But knowing what DFA knows now about those monsters, it will be difficult to support in good conscience their quest to reduce workers to dispensable, minimum-wage automatons. Quote
terrible_ted Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 I'll second the vote for "Ham on Rye" as the best Bukowski. Last night I started re-reading "The Sound and the Fury" by Faulkner. You either love him or hate him - and I'm in the first camp. Kazuo Ishiguro has written some compelling works - "An Artist of the Floating World" and "The Remains of the Day" are pretty approachable. Let me know if anyone else has read "The Unconsoled," the strangest novel I've read this side of the afore-mentioned "Dead Souls." Can't support the unabashed slamming of TV, however. If you don't know a few Schoolhouse Rock tunes or are unable to pick up on Gilligan references... Actually, maybe I'll skip the reference to social maladjustment... Hey Dru, you ought to put a plug in for "Sources of the River" by Jack Nisbit. It's an account of David Thompson's (no, not the former hot-shooting guard for the Denver Nuggets)explorations of the West in the late 1700's. He's kind of a forgotton "Canadian Lewis and Clark." -t Quote
Dru Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 You guys may have forgotten David Thompson but we haven't. What the hell we named a highway and a river after him. If you read Thompson's journals he reports that large hairy creatures, much bigger than men, threw rocks at his canoe as his expedition canoed down the upper Thompson River - near Squilax, I guess. Sorta like the Thomas Pynchon Mason and Dixon book but real life weirdness! Quote
terrible_ted Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dru: If you read Thompson's journals he reports that large hairy creatures, much bigger than men, threw rocks at his canoe as his expedition canoed down the upper Thompson River - near Squilax, I guess. Sorta like the Thomas Pynchon Mason and Dixon book but real life weirdness! Just an early example of cold-induced semi-coherent Canadian sprayin'... See any large hairy creatures up on Slesse?? -t Quote
Dru Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by terrible ted: quote:Originally posted by Dru: If you read Thompson's journals he reports that large hairy creatures, much bigger than men, threw rocks at his canoe as his expedition canoed down the upper Thompson River - near Squilax, I guess. Sorta like the Thomas Pynchon Mason and Dixon book but real life weirdness! Just an early example of cold-induced semi-coherent Canadian sprayin'... See any large hairy creatures up on Slesse?? -t Just the "trophy sized" looking for Quote
sk Posted September 23, 2002 Posted September 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by allison: I would like to weigh in that Tom Robbins blows goats. Pluse he doesn't write good female characters, and the only guy who can get away with that is that genius pig, David Mamet. Just goes to show HOW diffrent people are. I STRONGLY related to Robins female characters... when I was younger and now too. I Love that the most about him. He writes about women LIKE ME. I even asked Jk to read his books in the beginning so that he could better understand me... He learned to enjoy the books for his own reasons. "there are no wierd people, just some people need more understanding than others" -Another Roadside Attraction Quote
dbconlin Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Hear, hear! for no TV! That shit is ruinous to the grey matter. Books (or periodicals, lately) and music, all the way! I too was raised sans TV; now all I do is surf the 'net Quote
Dru Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 I beg to differ, "Ham on Rye" is the best Bukowski. Quote
Dru Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 An interesting tidbit (from my brother who runs a used bookstore, check it out www.pulpfictionbooks.com ) Bukowski and WS Burroughs are the most stolen authors in Vancouver. Oy! How am I gonna keep up my romantic image if I keep forgettin' to put Pablo neruda on th list? Since the whole "point" of this intellectual chestbeating is to tell Erik what books he should check out, I will say: Erik, chicks dig Neruda. Being able to recite'em a Neruda love ode = instant booty. Quote
bobinc Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 One of the Bukowski's I have I bought for .25 at yard sale; later realized it had a library pocket/card in the back! Yes, Neruda: "Is the rose naked? Or is that her only dress?" Quote
Dru Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 I happen to have noticed a Neruda poem titled "The Education of the Chieftan" in which one of the lines is "He scratched the secrets from crags". Sounds like Pablo visited Squamish Quote
Off_White Posted September 24, 2002 Posted September 24, 2002 Three fiction authors for you: Dru listed Last Call by Tim Powers. Most anything he has written is brilliantly warped, often structured around historical fact, and features the hidden machineries of the world that might be revealed if only you were strange enough to percieve it. James Blaylock is Powers' good buddy and another premier American Fabulist. The Last Coin and The Paper Grail were particularly good, but most of his work is great. While not as dark as Powers, Blaylock also revels in the implausibly possible. Douglas Coupland has written several great novels, and he's my token Canadian for the day. Girlfriend in a Coma, Miss Wyoming, and All Families are Dysfunctional are all quirky and highly recommended. Quote
jordop Posted September 25, 2002 Posted September 25, 2002 Bunch a wee radges, yir aw missin the Welsh. Filth was wide but, Glue aw greetin likes, Flyin over Tynecastle and it's fuckin brilliant. Quote
jordop Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 Parables and Paradoxes - Franz Kafka Where the fuck did you get that one? Way out of print. Amerika, though, was just re-releaesed under a new translation, "the Man Who Disappeared". The best, funniest, most picaresque Kafka. Statue of Liberty with a sword! [ 09-26-2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: jordop ] Quote
jordop Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 Samuel Beckett "Molloy". Nuf said. The only book which encapsulates more is maybe Ulysses. Quote
jordop Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 Houellebecq, "Elementary particles". Had to go to the Ham to get it when it first came out. Not the most elegantly written, but provoking look at the aftereffects of 60's liberalism when taken too far. The guy's certainly stirring it up in France right now though. Quote
texplorer Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 I don't read so I recommend you all go climbing. Much more stimulating than vegetating in front of a book. Sure you'll be more educated, intellectual, blah blah blah, but I'll be a better climber. come on: 5 pages? Quote
Dru Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by jordop: Parables and Paradoxes - Franz Kafka Where the fuck did you get that one? Way out of print. www.pulpfictionbooks.com $8.00 CDN its nice to be related to a bookstore owner [ 09-26-2002, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Dru ] Quote
jordop Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by jordop: Parables and Paradoxes - Franz Kafka Where the fuck did you get that one? Way out of print. www.pulpfictionbooks.com $8.00 CDN its nice to be related to a bookstore owner Another said: I bet that is also a parable. The first said: You have won. The second said: But unfortunately only in parable. The first said: No, in reality: in parable you have lost. [ 09-26-2002, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: jordop ] Quote
Dru Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 Go back to waiting for them to let you through the door,o smartass Quote
Dru Posted September 26, 2002 Posted September 26, 2002 "Fear is a most unpleasant sensation, and utterly useless" - Haroun Tazieff, Caves of Adventure [ 09-26-2002, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: Dru ] Quote
cj001f Posted September 27, 2002 Posted September 27, 2002 quote: Originally posted by jordop: Houellebecq, "Elementary particles". Had to go to the Ham to get it when it first came out. I can't say that I'm a big fan of Houellebecq ... he's a bit too French for me. Frederic Tuten (Tintin in the New World) ia about as far as I can tread down that path. Dru - Ambrose Bierce is excellent! and all of Trevanian's books are worthwhile as light reading(Eiger Sanction probably would appeal most here). Dead Souls (Gogol) is excellent - but Gogol was a better short story writer (the Overcoat is excellent), Isaac Babel also excelled at the Russian short story, an excellent but little known short story writer is Vasily Shukshin (hard to find an affordable edition around aside from Amazon). Quote
Dru Posted September 27, 2002 Posted September 27, 2002 Dru's recommended reading list part II. I had to go home and look at the bookshelf to jog my memory on these. Circus of Dr. Lao - Charles G. Finney The Mothman Prophecies - John Keel Cannery Row - John Steinbeck Moby Dick - Herman Melville (learn what the whalers do with the whale's foreskin!!) Soldiers of Paradise - Paul Park Shibumi - Trevanian Tales From The Flat Earth - Tanith Lee Tapping The Source/The Dogs of Winter - Kem Nunn The Hustler/The Color of Money/Queen's Gambit - Walter Tevis Ravens' End - Ben Gadd (Will's dad!) Sensory Exotica -Howard C Hughes The Rebel - Albert Camus Revolution of the Mind - Mark Polizzotti Girl In Landscape - Jonathan Lethem Whatever Happened to the Class of 65 - David Wallechinsky and Mike Medved Jack in the Box - William Kotzwinkle Parables and Paradoxes - Franz Kafka Giving Birth To Thunder, Sleeping With His Daughter: Coyote Builds North America - Barry Lopez Among the Thugs - Bill Buford Heraclitus (in whatever translation you can find) Bears Discover Fire - Terry Bisson Engine Summer - John Crowley Looking For Mo - Daniel Duane Smith and Other Events - Paul St. Pierre Alan Mendelssohn, The Boy From Mars - Daniel Pinkwater The Super Cops; The True Story of the Men They Called Batman and Robin - LH Whittemore A Soldier of the Great War - Mark Helprin The Devils' Dictionary - Ambrose Bierce Three Men In A Boat - Jerome K Jerome Three Californias - Kim Stanley Robinson How To Catch Crabs - Saltaire Publishing [ 09-27-2002, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Dru ] Quote
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