cracked Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Will, you need to drink a beer and settle down to your usual rational self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 F-off cracked...will's last post was the funniest thing i've read in a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalX Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 The MODERATOR only tangentially identified her, speaking to Cheney of "[his] family's experience ". Cheney then tiptoed around it with generalities. Edwards specifically highlighted "GAY DAUGHTER". Check out the transcripts Uhm. Is she not gay? Is it wrong to call somebody who is gay, gay? i'm confused. What did he do again that was wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Will, you need to drink a beer and settle down to your usual rational self. Only if you're buying Cracked...oh wait a minute, not old enough to buy are ya? Old enough to get drafted though, funny how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I'm with you here, Mr. X. I've seen other commentators make the point that ChucK did, but I think they are wrong. The question asked by Eiffel specifically referred to Cheney's "family situation," and he danced around specific mention of his daughter's status because the REPUBLICAN PARTY has sought to make this a divisive issue in this 2004 campaign year. For Edwards NOT to clarifiy what Cheney's "family situation" was, exactly, would have been to (1) avoid the obvious, (2) cower to the Republicans' manipulative campaign strategy, and (3) allow them to continue to try to have it both ways. I'm not saying the Democrats aren't hypocrites here, too, but the Republicans made this a campaign issue, not Kerry and Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 In my view, he was transparently attempting to drive a wedge between Bush and homophobe voters. What I don't like is the fact that he brought Cheney's daughter into the mix. I guess you could consider it all fine and proper since I'm sure the homophobe voters find this a very important issue. But even though he's turning the Repub's slimy tactics back on them, it's still slimy. Gotta do what you gotta do though. I think it was excellent strategy, and though completely disingenuous, Edwards pulled it off brilliantly. But it's still nothing I would be proud of, using the other guy's family members against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 FYI Here is a list of the Senate's Acting Presidents for every Tuesday session for 2001. January 30 - Enzi February 6 - Chafee February 13 - Chafee February 27 - Allen March 6 - Burns March 13 - Reid March 20 - DeWine March 27 - Chafee April 3 - Smith April 24 - Chafee May 1 - Chafee May 8 - Chafee May 15 - Frist May 22 - Chafee June 5 - Enzi June 12 - Byrd June 19 - Carper June 26 - Bayh July 10 - Nelson July 17 - Clinton July 24 - Byrd July 31 - Stabenaw September 25 - Wellstone October 2 - Clinton October 9 - Clinton October 16 - Edwards!!!!! October 23- Byrd October 30 - Bingaman November 13 - Murray November 27 - Jeffords December 4 - Stabenaw December 11 - Carnahan December 18 - Nelson A reward to whoever finds a Tuesday in 2002, 2003 or 2004 that Dick Cheney fulfilled his duties as President of the Senate here: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/index.html 2002 Tue 1/29 - Nelson Tue 2/5 - Kohl Tue 2/12 - Stabenow Tue 2/26 - Landrieu Tue 3/5 - Edwards Tue 3/12 - Landrieu Tue 3/19 - Miller Tue 4/9 - Cleland Tue 4/16 - Reed Tue 4/23 - Wellstone Tue 4/30 - Nelson Tue 5/7 - Miller Tue 5/14 - Cleland Tue 5/21 - Nelson Tue 6/4 - Durbin Tue 6/11 - Corzine Tue 6/18 - Dayton Tue 6/25 - Landrieu Tue 7/9 - Reed Tue 7/16 - Corzine Tue 7/23 - Reed Tue 7/30 - Clinton Tue 9/3 - Reed Tue 9/10 - Corzine Tue 9/17 - Reid Tue 9/24 - Stabenow Tue 10/1 - Miller Tue 10/8 - Miller Tue 10/15 - Reid Tue 11/12 - CHENEY! -- WE HAVE A WINNER! Tue 11/19 - Barkley (MN) 2003 Jan 7 *Cheney* Jan 14 Stevens Jan 22 Stevens Jan 28 Stevens Feb 4 Stevens Feb 11 Stevens Feb 25 Stevens Mar 4 Stevens Mar 11 Stevens Mar 18 Stevens Mar 25 Stevens Apr 1 Stevens Apr 8 Stevens Apr 29 Stevens May 6 Talent May 13 Ensign May 20 Alexander June 3 Stevens June 10 Stevens June 18 Murkowski June 24 Coleman July 8 Stevens July 15 Stevens July 22 Chaffee July 29 Stevens Sept 2 Stevens Sept 9 Stevens Sept 16 Stevens Sept 23 Stevens Sept 30 Sununu Oct 21 Stevens Oct 28 Stevens Nov 4 Stevens Nov 11 Warner Nov 18 Stevens Dec 9 Stevens 2004 1/20 - Stevens 1/27 - Enzi 2/3 - Stevens 2/10 - Stevens 3/2 - Stevens 3/9 - Hagel 3/16 - Sununu 3/23 - Stevens 3/30 - Ensign 4/6 - Cornyn 4/20 - Stevens 4/27 - Chambliss 5/4 - Stevens 5/11 - Stevens 5/18 - Stevens 6/1 - Stevens 6/8 - Hutchinson 6/15 - Stevens 6/22 - Allard 7/6 - Burns 7/13 - Stevens 7/20 - Enzi 9/7 - Stevens 9/14 - Chafee 9/21 - Enzi 9/28 - Stevens 10/05 - Stevens You will note Cheney and Edwards presided over the Senate for the exact same number of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I thought the debate was pretty even. I heard nothing that might convince me that GW and Dick Cheney don't need to be gang raped by the Borax 20 mule team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo_Montalban Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Just make sure to use the site suggested by Cheney to find the truth http://www.factcheck.com This the THE classic fuckup of the election!! Thanks Dick!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Will, you need to drink a beer and settle down to your usual rational self. Only if you're buying Cracked...oh wait a minute, not old enough to buy are ya? Old enough to get drafted though, funny how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalX Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 In my view, he was transparently attempting to drive a wedge between Bush and homophobe voters. What I don't like is the fact that he brought Cheney's daughter into the mix. I guess you could consider it all fine and proper since I'm sure the homophobe voters find this a very important issue. But even though he's turning the Repub's slimy tactics back on them, it's still slimy. Gotta do what you gotta do though. I think it was excellent strategy, and though completely disingenuous, Edwards pulled it off brilliantly. But it's still nothing I would be proud of, using the other guy's family members against him. I don't see how it's sliwmy. The question was how is the republician party treating you because you have a lesbian daughter. That might not have been how she phrased it, but by god that certainly was the question. I'm sure a lot of people weren't exactly sure what the commentator was talking about and Cheney like alawys beat around the bush. Edwards came out and clarified the question and his response. I know it didn't happen often during the debate, but we shouldn't be upset when somebody actually gives an answer to the actual question asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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