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Poll: Making noise at the Grasslands

Is it o.k. to Party at Skull Hollow?  

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  1. 1. Is it o.k. to Party at Skull Hollow?

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DFA, first off, I am not a trad climber, just pretend to be one. Anyone who redpoints three number grades higher on sport vs. trad should not be called a trad climber. I like to go in the alpine and have only once or twice been out trad cragging and that is usually on rest days down in the Lower Gorge.

 

As for the so called "crowd." When was the last time you were at Smith when there were more open sites than full sites during peak season. That was last weekend and if you think otherwise, maybe your age is catching up with you. We did tone it down the first time she came over, switched music from Hendrix to Van Morrison, and were talking using our normal voices from three feet away. How much more quiet should we have been? Maybe DFA is really a middle-aged woman in that group of ten women? They could have easily moved closer to the road. We were in the very back of the campground, trying to be considerate of others. The elk were louder than we were! They new there was a keg and 12 people coming over that night. They had every opportunity to move knowing that they may be effected by conversation from 60 yards away. My two cents.

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Here is my question.... what was the cop's solution to the interesting proposition of people talking too loud, outside in a public place? Can you get busted for talking too much and disturbing someone else's sleep?

 

I think the folks expecting "quiet" and "sensitivity" have chosen the wrong sport. Can't tell you how many times I've been awakened camping by.... animals, my tentmate's snoring, gale force winds, and yes, sometimes even other climbers. If all you are looking for is a good night's sleep, stay at home, get a hotel room, sleep in your car somewhere, get ear plugs or get over it.

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The sherriff just stated that he received a complaint from a hunter that there was a group who was making too much noise and wanted it to stop. There were only four of us outside at the time, the rest had gone to bed and he couldn't really say anything other than just to keep it down, which we were doing. Then we talked about deer hunting and the elk that were bugling between the ridges behind us.

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It seems like the ladies were a bit uptight...hhhmmm, I wonder if they were part of the group mentioned in the other Smith thread.

 

Noise at the Grasslands is inevitable any more, whether it's from some friggin drum circle, technofreakravers, or a bunch of rednecks boasting about the fact that they are from such-n-such and you're not! Simple fact is G-lands is free camping and you never know who's gonna show up, so either be prepared or do like some and continue on up the road and find a better spot.

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Last year, the locals pulled up to our private site, gunned the engine on the jacked up 4x4 tuck and yelled "WE'RE FROM PRINEVILLE AND YOU'RE NOT!!"

 

To which you replied, "I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH!"

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You can bet your ass

I wont go quietly

Making a noise in the world.

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When I go to the Grasslands I always bring ear plugs. I expect folks to be making noise there, or at least I figure it's highly likely. Last time we were down there nobody was partying but the cows made a lot of noise every morning starting about 5 AM.

 

I figure you should always ask someone to be quiet before you call the cops; however I might not have the guts to ask a group of Hells Angles to shut up.

 

I wasn't there, so I don't know that much, but it sounds like there was a clash between folks who were a little too uptight and folks who had a few too many bigdrink.gif to know how noisy they were.

 

Anyway I hope there isn't a big dispute down there next weekend.

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You can bet your ass

I wont go quietly

Making a noise in the world.

 

The haiku starts well,

then six instead of seven.

What a disaster!

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i think I might call the cops on the damn cows. they wake me up every time i go there.

 

seriously sorry your b-day was harshed on ryland, that sucks. as much as i may not personaly like you i know enough of you to know you were likely not screaming and running arround. I am Shocked that your southern accent and gentalmanly ways did not sooth thease not verry lady like women. it sounds to me that those women were a case of way to uptight. it seems to me it has been fairly commenly known that loud peple go to skull hollow and the quiet ones go to the bivey. sounds to me like those woman picked the wrong campground.

 

on a more personal note, what ever happend to the saying "when in rome do as the romens do"?? seriously, why is it that people walk into a situation and want to conform it to them, instead of going with what ever is going on there, ot LEAVING. I hate to say it, but from my personal experience it is mostly women that are like this. that freaking annoys me.

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drive a mile up the road? that's how the grasslands came about being a "climber's camp" the loud people with fires and parties began going there after the pussification of the bivvy. if they have to keep moving a mile up the road for the gumbies they'll be back at portland before ya know it.

until there is a camp host with posted hours and you pay to camp there.. bring on the noise and drive out even the cows.

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I must take issue with DFA's comments. I am on neither side, but someplace in the middle. The grass lands has always been a place for climbers to let it all hang out, from keggers to naked bike riding. Most people know what to expect. I am sure we all have our stories, but you can't say that the grass lands is becoming more crowded and that there are now so many people that the camp spots are becoming amorphis and blending together with little separation. What was it like 15 years ago DFA? I know you know better. It was way more amorphis 15 years ago before the BLM came in and fenced it off and made parking spots. There were riggs, tents, and bodies intermingled everywhere between the cow pies. I am afraid the grasslands has or is going to become a true "skull hollow".

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i think I might call the cops on the damn cows. they wake me up every time i go there.

Hey, I know it was a little early when hillweasel and I woke you guys up but there's no need for name calling or armed forces. smirk.gif

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i think I might call the cops on the damn cows. they wake me up every time i go there.

Hey, I know it was a little early when hillweasel and I woke you guys up but there's no need for name calling or armed forces. smirk.gif

yelrotflmao.gifyelrotflmao.gifyelrotflmao.gifwave.gif I was not refering to you guys tongue.gif silly. I ment the MOOOO cows that MOOO at the crack of dawn madgo_ron.gifmadgo_ron.gif

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Some people want to party in the campground, some people want to sleep quietly. Who gets their way? When I want to drink it up with my buddies, I try to compromise by picking a spot away from others, parking my vehicle between our campfire and other tents, and directing the conversation away from other sites if possible. However, I expect a similar amount of understanding from the folks who would rather have things quiet. Wear earplugs, stick to the Ranger Rick campgrounds, or just deal with a little noise.

 

Unfortunately, the partiers have the ability to easily ruin a peaceful nights slumber, whereas the quite lovers can't do much to mess things up for the louder folks (save for calling the cops).

 

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I know you did, looking forward to seeing you guys again this weekend. bigdrink.gif
we will be there for SURE fruit.giffruit.giffruit.gif

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What does the fact that the Grasslands is free have to do with one's "right" to make noise?

 

Some of you have the attitude that if one wants peace and quiet, they better shell out the bucks for a hotel room, cuz public land's been usurped by the lowest common denominator, and that lowest common denominator has the right to paaaarteeeeee.

 

I call bullshit on that.

 

If y'all can't respect people's needs for a little peace and quiet, what's gonna happen is that the cops are gonna get tired of responding to shit out there, and some outfit like Thousand Trails will get contracted to run the place: fantastic, huh?

 

If ya gotta have yer keggers and shit, make it more special by taking it out into the boonies....there's a helluvalotta space out there for partyin', boyz!

 

And as far as Ryland goes, I'd wager his party was nowhere near as quiet as he claims; a group of six around a keg can make an awful racket without even realizing it. plus, a few beers tends to make one pretty self-righteous, and that seems to be a tone in his posts: "Us? Making noise? She must be a bitch or something! Women!"

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Got ya Sexual Chocolate. No noise in public spaces. By god, I'm going to call the cops because all the damn cars and buses in downtown Portland make all kinds of racket when I'm trying to do a little zen meditation.

 

Get real.... I don't think most are advocating the lowest common demoninator and unchecked madness, but at the same time your right for peach and quiet doesn't "Win" over someone else's right to have a bit of fun.

 

Again, if anyone expects solitude at camping space in close proximity to the most popular crag in the state of Oregon, I'm just suggesting that they are looking in the wrong place.

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uhhh...that's bs cluck...

 

he's talking about reasonableness and respect for other people...ie, if you are right next to a bunch of folks sleeping in their tents, its flat ass inconsiderate to be partying hard...it is a campground of sorts...go up the road or sumpin...

 

sheesh...

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SC, I am serious, we were trying to keep it down. I was pretty shocked when they came over the second time to tell us the cops had been called. We picked an area that was as far from any other campers as possible. The woman who came over must have been walking for at least a minute to get to us. How far away that is, I do not know. Anyways, it was unfortunate that it happened at all and I will be more aware next time just as I hope those women would be too. We learn from experience, it is just the firstt time that has ever happened. Again, the campground was not packed, we may have been a little loud when we pulled up, voices carry, but we quieted down, and if others started talking over each other, you would here a collective shushhh among the group. SC, you were not there, others who were stated that they did not hear a thing, maybe I/we were in the wrong and should have gone elsewhere and maybe they should have. I think people will just have to agree to disagree, and the partiers will need to be respectful of sleepers and sleeper should know that there may be some noise at the grasslands past 10pm.

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Personally, I would like to vouch that Ryland is a quiet, considerate Southern gentleman. I have a hard time imagining him getting loud or rowdy. I'm sure it was an error in perceptions.

 

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