slothrop Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 I'm arrogant yet spineless. I would lose my ass if it weren't attached to me. I'm generally inconsiderate of others' needs. In fact, I'm a dirty, lying, thieving bastard. I feel my qualifications make me probably the worst choice for any position in the team, so please consider me. Do I need an ice pick for this climb? Quote
Ireneo_Funes Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 I'd like to be responsible for not bringing the summit register... Quote
Greg_W Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Ireneo & slothrop, you are both in. All are welcome to not pay and not climb. Quote
Bronco Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Most of my experience has been paying not to climb, as in, buying fancy gear and supplies, making a heinous approach and then not climbing anything. I can guarantee I will not climb although paying may be negotiable. Can you make an exception if I pay with cash not to climb? Or is not paying an expedition requirement? Maybe 007 will not pay to climb, but I will pay not to climb, Sam I am. Quote
willstrickland Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 I have not hiked any of the Cascade Jewels, but I am an amateur jewel thief. You can see I wish to Not Pay for Jewels. Can you please consider me as a climber and translator for the Cho Oye Como Va climb (I speak Spanish)? Quote
wormfighter6 Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 007 where did you come up with these absurdities?!! 8M in 3three weeks?!!. General rule of thumb below 10k ft takes 1 day to acclimatize to the alt. Suppose you could gain 5-6 days acclimatization by sleeping in an 02 depravation chamber. Have you ever been above 20k ft?? do you have ANY IDEA how your body functions at that ALT?? By your lack of concern and your utterly ignorant responses I will have to say NO. Granted I have never been to 8KM but I have been at 20K Ft and you have the brain a vastly reduced brain capacity. Additionally some people just don’t have the right genetic makeup to EVER go above 20K. Earlier you asked “what kinda training can you do for 8MK” simple run a friggin marathon. Yea! If you don’t have the cardio pulmonary system to do that your heart and lungs will never get you above 20k. Sure you could be there but to think and figure stuff out NEVER HAPPEN you will be another statistic (dead). If you think you can do it no prob pack you stuff up right now and spent 3-4 days on the top of MT Rainier w/o coming down. I could go on for 3-4 hours why this “plan” you have schemed is so idiotic. Well there’s 10min of my life I will never get back. Quote
Spliffy Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I don't know that Don Whillans could have run a marathon, or would have wanted to for that matter, but he was quite hard at altitude. You should train by putting a plactic shopping bag over your head, and securing it around your neck with a rubber band, then rip it all off just before you pass out completely, if you can. Climbing 8000m peaks is like trying to kill yourself, and stopping just before you die, or dying regardless. Have fun!! Your colleagues at the cubicle farm will be quite impressed!! Quote
007_dup1 Posted August 12, 2004 Author Posted August 12, 2004 with regard to permits: A climbing permit to scale the Himalayas in Nepal is issued by the Mountaineering Section of the Ministry of Tourism. The Tibetan government has opened 326 peaks for climbing. It is waiving royalty for several peaks but requires a liaison officer for peaks above 6500 meters. Visa is $50 in San Francisco! Obtaing a liaison officer for Cho Oyu has royalties around $2,500USD for a small capable group. From Katmandu we will enter China through Zhangmu driving through Nyalam and Tingri to the Chinese Base Camp. The Pay to Climb companies probably don't want climbers to be informed about how easy this is! Quote
Bronco Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 On a related note, I am putting together a climb up the N. Norwegian Buttress of Mt. Index, partners are needed. I have no aid gear but have walked around the Rainbow store parking lot in Monroe very much which is excellent training for hard aid climbing. My other training consists of sitting at a desk reading stories about climbing and posting crap on this website. Interested partners keep posting on this thread. Quote
Alex Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Bronco, please include me in your plans. Climbers must have no idea how easy the Norweigian Buttress is, and how cheap! We will scoop them all and climb this covetted cascade jewel! You don't even need a Chinese liason officer! Quote
willstrickland Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I once saw aid climbers on El Capitan. I am sure we can hire porters at the Index store for $25 per day. I believe we can acclimatize on Mt Si, and climb the NNB in 1.5 days. To all the detractors and naysayers who believe it is not possible to climb this jewel without PAYING TO CLIMB, I only say this: ............................. ....................../´¯/) ....................,/.¯./ ..................../..../ .................../..../ ................../..../ ................./..../ ............/´¯ '...'/´¯¯`•¸ ........./'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.•´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... ...............\.............\... Quote
iain Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Bronco if you find a biner on the route it is probably mine. I also found a rusty AA battery on slipstream last winter. call to identify. Quote
Bronco Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Very positive attitudes will get us to the tippy-top summit! Quote
slothrop Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I also found a rusty AA battery on slipstream last winter. call to identify. Hey, that must be mine! I've been going headlampless since that summer I climbed Slipstream. It was in good "nick", as they say, that August--don't believe the naysayers who are always trying to give you bad advice about climbing conditions there. There's no way I'm paying to see at night, so I'm glad you found my battery. You can just give it to me when we meet up in Boulder to start our acclimitudination training for Cho Oyeah... you're still in, right? Quote
iain Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Cho Oyeah... you're still in, right? Cho Oyeah? O yeah. I too have been going headtorchless through a steady diet of whipped carrots. While my eyes now glow in the dark it has done nothing for my skin complexion. And I will return your AA battery WHICH I FOUND ON SLIPSTREAM. Quote
willstrickland Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 My very experienced partner, Annabelle Bond (whom I am dating) and I would like to join your Cho Ohface expedition. We are tired of PAYING TO CLIMB, and can outfit the entire team in Tibetan Yak-Fur Vests, which Annabelle says makes me look "hott". Quote
iain Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Excellent. I will show Annabelle my Ohface maps in detail Quote
slothrop Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Annabelle tells me she prefers the "rear entry" approach to Ohface. Now there's a woman who likes to get on the tippy top! Quote
Stefan Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Contact Dwayner. One time he was screwed over by a mountain climbing expedition somebody else was putting together. I am sure he would like to make that up by going to Cho Oyeah. Quote
Greg_W Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Tibetan Yak-Fur Vests, which Annabelle says makes me look "hott". Is she into bandanas? Quote
iain Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Dude hands-off we are dating. Can't you see I pissed high on that tree already? Quote
swaterfall Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I've been training my cascade family-jewels for a trip to Cho Ohface, on my own, for some time. I do not believe in PAYING FOR THIS ATTEMPT. Can I join your expedition? Quote
ashw_justin Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Well the real question is, how much are you willing to pay for "a few good climbers" to join you? Quote
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