CraigA Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Quote
erik Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 just one will work also you can prolly safely leave biners on every other bolt. saves on left gear you might need above. Quote
fern Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 are you looking at that wacky description of aid-climbing in Freedom of the Hills? where they show leaving 2 biners on every piece? There are better learn-to-aid-climb references around. Quote
AmberBuxom Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 actually it depends on the orientation of the bolt hanger. a tang style or a ringed hanger will hang a single biner in a poor position. Quote
Lambone Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Yeah, but most bolts one biner is fine. Where you NEED two biners, or some type of runner is when clipping into a pin. With only one biner it puts a kink in the rope, adding lots of drag. Quote
wdietsch Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Lambone said: Yeah, but most bolts one biner is fine. Where you NEED two biners, or some type of runner is when clipping into a pin. With only one biner it puts a kink in the rope, adding lots of drag. use "tie off" or "hero" loops Quote
specialed Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 CraigA said: I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Either just clip your daisy/aider set-up directly into the bolt or if you want to be real fast put a fifi hook on your setup and just hook 'em! Quote
gnibmilc Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 specialed said: CraigA said: I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Either just clip your daisy/aider set-up directly into the bolt or if you want to be real fast put a fifi hook on your setup and just hook 'em! ...and just leave suitable "protection" as required... Quote
texplorer Posted October 1, 2003 Posted October 1, 2003 Craig, I have never seen anyone really put the two biners on a bolt. Since bolt ladders are usually secure, most climbers backclean the crap out of them. It makes your second's life easier and faster. I would also recommend using an adustable daisy as opposed to the old school fifi. They are much more convenient and require less muscle. Quote
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