CraigA Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 just one will work also you can prolly safely leave biners on every other bolt. saves on left gear you might need above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Always backclean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 are you looking at that wacky description of aid-climbing in Freedom of the Hills? where they show leaving 2 biners on every piece? There are better learn-to-aid-climb references around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberBuxom Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 actually it depends on the orientation of the bolt hanger. a tang style or a ringed hanger will hang a single biner in a poor position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Yeah, but most bolts one biner is fine. Where you NEED two biners, or some type of runner is when clipping into a pin. With only one biner it puts a kink in the rope, adding lots of drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Lambone said: Yeah, but most bolts one biner is fine. Where you NEED two biners, or some type of runner is when clipping into a pin. With only one biner it puts a kink in the rope, adding lots of drag. use "tie off" or "hero" loops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 CraigA said: I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Either just clip your daisy/aider set-up directly into the bolt or if you want to be real fast put a fifi hook on your setup and just hook 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnibmilc Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 specialed said: CraigA said: I have a dumb question. When aiding a bolted section is it necessary to use double carabiners or is it fine to use just one? Don't be too hard on me. Thanks Craig Either just clip your daisy/aider set-up directly into the bolt or if you want to be real fast put a fifi hook on your setup and just hook 'em! ...and just leave suitable "protection" as required... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Craig, I have never seen anyone really put the two biners on a bolt. Since bolt ladders are usually secure, most climbers backclean the crap out of them. It makes your second's life easier and faster. I would also recommend using an adustable daisy as opposed to the old school fifi. They are much more convenient and require less muscle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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