Dru Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Chestbeating is telling someone who doesn't know much about what he just did how awesome it was. I saw this posted by David Parker over on another thread and figured it should get its own thread. I would have to disagree with you DP. I think you have only stated one small portion of the totality of what is chestbeating. You might wish to consult the Golden Tarzan Awards on the alpinelite.com archives for the original definition and some examples featured in the "Chestbeater of the Month". I would define chestbeating as 1) overstating anything about the nature of the climb IE difficulty, classicness, steepness, epicness. "We set off up the Tooth on vertical leads of great difficulty. Only the fact I am a master of this runout style of climbing kept us from dying a horrible death" or 'I finished up another 75 plus degree lead to the top of the Roman Wall on Baker in a howling blizzard and whiteout" 2) talking big about something before you do it in order to psyche yourself up to it aka "chestbeating in advance". "Yeah I am going to go free solo North Norewgian Buttress tomorrow that is gonna be so rad!!! I am such a bad ass." "Me too! I totally want to get up on that sickness!" 3) Just basically overhyping anything. "This new six meter variation to the Overhang on Orchard Rock is without a doubt the most classic route in Washington and possibly one of the top climbs of its grade in North America if not the world" 4) Reporting that you climbed but not what or where in order that no one else can ever possibly attempt to verify your claims "Just got back from My secret cliff where I climbed 30 new pitches of 5.13+ and harder all onsight. Sorry I can't tell you where it is yet you will have to wait for my new guidebook to come out" 5) Like Lowell defined it, bragging and gloating, more the former than the latter. Not "It was pretty good" but "I was super awesome me me me" A lot of some of this stuff is somewhat subjective. When throwing superlatives around it is often useful to compare them to a known standard Eg:" this pitch is harder than Climb X which is a well known climb I have done, but not as hard as climb Y; however the rock is cleaner than on either of them." Quote
allthumbs Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Holy shit. And all this time I thought chestbeating was what I did between my girlfriend's tits. Quote
iain Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 "so you are thinking of freesoloing? well when I soloed so-and-so route (11c I think?) and the 12a chossfest to the right I found out this about myself..." "I really like the BD ice gloves, they worked great when I climbed polar circus with 1 standard ice axe and they didn't make it hard to tie my running shoes" Quote
RobBob Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 RobBob said: All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." "... when all of a sudden, Trask gives me the reacharound!" Quote
allthumbs Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: RobBob said: All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." "... when all of a sudden, Trask gives me the reacharound!" "and grabs my holstered .45 and proceeds to pump 7 rounds into fat boy and stop the charge. Thank God for real men like Trask! Hip Hip HooRay!!!" Quote
erik Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 trask said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: RobBob said: All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." "... when all of a sudden, Trask gives me the reacharound!" "and grabs my holstered .45 and proceeds to pump 7 rounds into fat boy and stop the charge. Thank God for real men like Trask! Hip Hip HooRay!!!" little did trask know that was his new bride bent over picking dasies to adorn his bloated crown, a true ignorant slob the ole boy is......... Quote
allthumbs Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 jordop said: 511 articles on bivouac.com and all of them redundant blather Quote
Braumeister Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 trask said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: RobBob said: All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." "... when all of a sudden, Trask gives me the reacharound!" "and grabs my holstered .45 and proceeds to pump 7 rounds into fat boy and stop the charge. Thank God for real men like Trask! Hip Hip HooRay!!!" .45? No, you daft bastard, the man used his trusty .44 Webley! Quote
allthumbs Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 Braumeister said: trask said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: RobBob said: All of us of British descent unfortunately are pre-wired for this type of talk, you know. "Yes, well, there I was on safari, face to face with the largest rhino in all of Lesotho, seconds away from death if I missed my shot..." "... when all of a sudden, Trask gives me the reacharound!" "and grabs my holstered .45 and proceeds to pump 7 rounds into fat boy and stop the charge. Thank God for real men like Trask! Hip Hip HooRay!!!" .45? No, you daft bastard, the man used his trusty .44 Webley! I stand corrected. Right you are my good man. Quote
EWolfe Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 Isn't that how you get the dust out of your chestwig? Quote
iain Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 I think they have a shopvac attachment for that. Quote
Formaldehead Posted August 2, 2003 Posted August 2, 2003 Where does sending someone your unsolicited climbing resume fit in? Quote
bird Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Here is an example of chestbeating. The reason it is chestbeating is that the caption makes a point of saying that he is warming up on a V4. Why make that point? Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Well? If he was sending a longstanding project, would it be relevant then? Seems like a pretty good, concise photo caption. Here's person x doing thing y on problem z which is rated vblahblahblah. Seems like it's only chestbeating if the person reading the caption doesn't warm up on V4s. Quote
Necronomicon Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Maybe a flow chart would help us out here. Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 bird said: Here is an example of chestbeating. The reason it is chestbeating is that the caption makes a point of saying that he is warming up on a V4. Why make that point? that's not him hommes... that is "Ian" Distel is not "Ian" Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 1) overstating anything about the nature of the climb IE difficulty, classicness, steepness, epicness. "We set off up the Tooth on vertical leads of great difficulty. Only the fact I am a master of this runout style of climbing kept us from dying a horrible death" or 'I finished up another 75 plus degree lead to the top of the Roman Wall on Baker in a howling blizzard and whiteout" or: I skied 60% blue ice at Steven's Pass! Quote
EWolfe Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 ( I think he just sent a V4 with a slopey mantle finish) Quote
EWolfe Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Googlism for: chest beating chest beating is commonly used for family communication in the dense forest chest beating is performed by both males and females chest beating is supposed to demonstrate how much chest beating is going to stop development in an area that has already seen a motley collection of monster houses crop up where horses chest beating is complete once this war is over chest beating is to make some self chest beating is to recall its outdated operating model as a crown corporation chest beating is in response to renegade democrat senator andrew murray laying down the gauntlet yesterday chest beating is adult intimidation chest beating is done some good and chest beating is repeated chest beating is going to truly impress chest beating is an excuse to deflect opinion away from the home front chest beating is in chest beating is only that and at the end of the day they want a good price for their slice of the action also chest beating is clear from the specialised nature of chinese delegations that visited indian in the last four years chest beating is the norm chest beating is a guy's domain chest beating is not going to serve any purpose chest beating is hilarious chest beating is going on chest beating is as pathetic as the old git gregg allman bitching about saying rap is short for crap because no one wants to buy his rambling hillbilly chest beating is that the dissonance created between our glorious endeavor and it's main proponent with the ugly chest beating is more attractive chest beating is going on in europe Quote
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