chelle Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Dru said: oh yeah I forgot you can see BIGFOOT at the espresso trailer! Oh I forgot about that place. Thanks for the reminder. They've got the best espresso on Hwy. 2! p.s. 'cause I'm a reasonable kinda gal. Quote
erik Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 BEST PLACE FOR ESPRESSO IS THE BOX ON THE EAST END OF GOLDBAR WITH THE LITTLE HOTTIE DRIVING THE BLAZER!!! FREE COFFEE IF YOU ANSWER THE TRIVIA!! PLUS SHE SMOKED A JOINT WITH US AND TOLD US WE WERE COOL!!! AND THE COFFEE IS OKAY TOO, I GUESS! Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 you guys are trying the reverse psychology, "oh don't throw me in that briar patch" approach to get me to avoid index cause you know I would own the crag and your weak, softly graded routes would bow down before me.... well, it works, I'm going alpine climbing this weekend Index is safe for now. Quote
Ade Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Peter_Puget said: I hate sounding like a broken record but I believe the reason that no good rock climbers live in Washington is simply due to the lack of a ROCK CLIMBING FORUM in which to discuss their amazing feats! PP BORING! Quote
E-rock Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Dru said: you guys are trying the reverse psychology, "oh don't throw me in that briar patch" approach to get me to avoid index cause you know I would own the crag and your weak, softly graded routes would bow down before me.... well, it works, I'm going alpine climbing this weekend Index is safe for now. One word: Saggitarius Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 E-rock said: Dru said: you guys are trying the reverse psychology, "oh don't throw me in that briar patch" approach to get me to avoid index cause you know I would own the crag and your weak, softly graded routes would bow down before me.... well, it works, I'm going alpine climbing this weekend Index is safe for now. One word: Saggitarius LEO actually. but with Snafflhundus in the ascendant. Quote
chelle Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 (edited) Dru said: LEO actually. but with Snafflhundus in the ascendant. Well now that explains everything... Edited July 17, 2003 by ehmmic Quote
offwidthclimber Posted July 17, 2003 Author Posted July 17, 2003 Dru said: SQUAMISH: sport routes of all grades 5.6-5.14c INDEX: only 5.11 and up basically; no 5.14s what the fuck is the point of sport routes in the 5.6 - 5.10 range... besides top roping girl scouts? Quote
AlpineK Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Dru's been ignoring Cmans post. We found out this last weekend what kind of man Dru is. He doesn't date girls or even sheep, like erik, he dates his climbing gear. Dru's scared of the ghost of the pig. Quote
DCramer Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 SQUAMISH: bouldering. INDEX: no bouldering worth speaking of There is excellent bouldering in the area including several Columbia boulder size rocks. SQUAMISH: sport routes of all grades 5.6-5.14c INDEX: only 5.11 and up basically; no 5.14s True. Wasn’t the first 5.14 in BC put up by a Wa climber? SQUAMISH: over 1,000 pitches of TRAD from 1 to 23 pitches in length including WORLD CLASSICS. INDEX: a few hundred pitches of trad, multipitch is only 5-6 p. long unless you count Mt Baring. heavily concentrated in the 5.10 to 5.12 range I bet there are over 1,000 pitches at Index. Didn’t the guy who put up the first .11 in Squamish (which turned out to be a 12) move to the states? Please name the world classics! SQUAMISH: clean on popular routes. INDEX: vegetated/mossy on even semipopular routes Most routes are clean SQUAMISH: a town to hang out in INDEX: a quarry converted to redneckville to camp out in It was a sad day when the Index Tavern closed SQUAMISH REST DAY ACTIVITY: windsurf, mountainbike, hike, smoke good Canadian weed. INDEX REST DAY ACTIVITY: Reptile Zoo. Reptile Man will be at my house on 8/4 come on over! SQUAMISH AID: about 2 dozen routes from 1-12 pitches and C1 to A4+. INDEX AID: mostly single pitch, dirty, or aiding free routes Lots of aid routes at Index most several pitches long but (even better) still lots of easily accessible FAs to be done! Wasn’t the Black Dyke climbed by guys from WA? Only a few OWs at Index too. Wasn't the hardest OW at Squamish done by WA climbers? DC Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 DCramer said: SQUAMISH: bouldering. INDEX: no bouldering worth speaking of There is excellent bouldering in the area including several Columbia boulder size rocks. but is there bouldering, like, established problems? how many? Squamish has 1,500 V0- to V13 SQUAMISH: sport routes of all grades 5.6-5.14c INDEX: only 5.11 and up basically; no 5.14s True. Wasn’t the first 5.14 in BC put up by a Wa climber?no it was put up by Jim Sandford, mullet wearer SQUAMISH: over 1,000 pitches of TRAD from 1 to 23 pitches in length including WORLD CLASSICS. INDEX: a few hundred pitches of trad, multipitch is only 5-6 p. long unless you count Mt Baring. heavily concentrated in the 5.10 to 5.12 range I bet there are over 1,000 pitches at Index. Didn’t the guy who put up the first .11 in Squamish (which turned out to be a 12)huh? first 12 was put up by visiting Australian Nic Peart (left side of the split in 75) and rated 5.10+ SQUAMISH: clean on popular routes. INDEX: vegetated/mossy on even semipopular routes "Most" routes are cleannice try SQUAMISH: a town to hang out in INDEX: a quarry converted to redneckville to camp out in It was a sad day when the Index Tavern closed SQUAMISH REST DAY ACTIVITY: windsurf, mountainbike, hike, smoke good Canadian weed. INDEX REST DAY ACTIVITY: Reptile Zoo. Reptile Man will be at my house on 8/4 come on over! SQUAMISH AID: about 2 dozen routes from 1-12 pitches and C1 to A4+. INDEX AID: mostly single pitch, dirty, or aiding free routes Lots of aid routes at Index most several pitches long but (even better) still lots of easily accessible FAs to be done! Wasn’t the Black Dyke climbed by guys from WA?Ya, one route, so what? It was FREED by a BC local anyhow.also for new route potential, Squamish has loads more than Index with several whole walls hardly touched Only a few OWs at Index too. DC Quote
EWolfe Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 The BEST part about Index is the Gut Wagon in front of the Reptile Zoo Squamish $3.00 fare? Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 for $3.00 US you can get a wicked sub and a drink at subs plus on 2nd. Quote
DCramer Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 huh? first 12 was put up by visiting Australian Nic Peart (left side of the split in 75) and rated 5.10+ Squamish ratings seem to move like the stock averages! Left side .12! Amazing. Who’d have thunk it! I was thinking of Sentry Box! Quote
DCramer Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 You know you got me thinking about how good some of the aid routes at Squamish are. Those expanding flakes are amazing. Are the aid routes on the Grand very popular these days? (excluding Uncle Bens) Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Sentry Box was freed by CANADIAN Eric Weinstein who later moved to California. I know he did some American climbing and may even have been born in America but your pathetic attempt to claim him as one of you is exposed for what it is. Why next thing you will be trying to pretend Neil Young is an American Quote
Dru Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 All the cool aid climbers are TOTALLY on the Badge. Grand Wall is so last year. You should go do Under the Gun though. Take something to puncture duct tape with Quote
Rodchester Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 for $3.00 US you can get a wicked sub and a drink at subs plus on 2nd. How much is that in Canuck-cash? Quote
TimL Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 Dru said: Sentry Box was freed by CANADIAN Eric Weinstein who later moved to California. is. Why next thing you will be trying to pretend Neil Young is an American No wonder SB it felt soft for the grade. If someone from Index put it up it would be rated 11c or easier. Same thing with the Daily Planet. Quote
Dru Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 i can't help it if you guys have an inadequacy complex and have to pretend your routes are hard for the grade in order to feel special. if you guys are so shit hot maybe you can either 1) repeat city park free for what, first washington free ascent, or 2) repeat Genius Loci on the Chief, its only rated 12b, that's like 11b at Index rigght Quote
Dru Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 Rodchester said: for $3.00 US you can get a wicked sub and a drink at subs plus on 2nd. How much is that in Canuck-cash? it changes daily! Quote
EWolfe Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 Dru said: that's like 11b at Index rigght Now you're talking the mystique your world-class places just can't afford plus Index has that fifth force sensory thing that's like bein' on every time you're there. Quote
wayne Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 Climbers tend to gravitate to the type of climbing that suits them. I have moved many times to suit the type of climbing I am into at the time. The obvious reason I moved here is I love the type of mountaineering and pure adventure I find here,AND Canada. Let the clippers stay there ! (please) Quote
DCramer Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 I take it you won't argue with Left Side being over rated! My point about EW was that he left Squamish! I just looked up that bit about the .14 and damn you're right. I was confused because the route next to it (14b/c)in the guidebook was called " a contender for Canada's hardest route" and it was put up by a WA climber! Quote
DCramer Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 Dru said: All the cool aid climbers are TOTALLY on the Badge. Grand Wall is so last year. You should go do Under the Gun though. Take something to puncture duct tape with Hey I am an old guy (although not as old as Cairns, if he is who I think he is) so being so last year isn't so bad! D Quote
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