EWolfe Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television - Jerry Mander The Four Agreements - Miguel Ruiz A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawkings (hurts my brain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 a few short notes on tropical butterflies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Inferno - Dante (such powerful imagery of eternal stygian suffering that I've been compelled to read sections aloud) John Barleycorn - Jack London (a memoir [sp?] of London's lifelong relationship with the bottle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Nufonia Must Fall - Kid Koala Oblomov- Sergei Goncharov Cochon Sinistre - Tony Hillerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 beer labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence_Sitter Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 rise and fall of the third reich, willaim shirer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Very interesting read, his Ghandi bio is good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 A Night of Serious Drinking - R. Daumal Machiavelli in Hell (bio) Venice: A maritime Republic (History) Teton Skiing - T. Turiano Man's Fate - Malraux John Barleycorn (and I, too, wish to see the world with drink in hand!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Books about parenting is all I get to read these days. Already read Rise & Fall of Third Reich, Burden of Guilt, A Brief History of Time, Dante's Inferno, Ghandi, etc. Those days of serious, deep thought reading are behind me, for I have entered into what my other friends with kids call... The Dark Years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 You know, after a couple years of looking at your book lists, I ask myself...are these people really that intellectual and interested in this "serious heavy hitting literature", or are they just throwing out the labels for show ? I mean really, doesn't anyone here do any light reading? I guess climbers are really smart mother fuckers. For me as 1/2 time dad, juggling boating, work, some social life, the fucking yard, life's little ongoing errands, time in the mountains, grandparents, occasions, appointments, and all the other shit that makes up my week, about the only time I have to read is on the shitter and usually it's a magazine. I can't finish an article before the fucking phone rings, there's a knock at the door, or I have to break up a fight between my kids. Jeez, last week my son and his friend got into a full blown fist fight in my yard. A true face punchout battle which I finally had to break up when my son Drew was slamming the other fucker's face into my cedar fence. Drew's 13. Point is, I have no time for reading...my loss I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Finished Timeline, by Micheal Crighton last year. Good book about jumping back in time to the Middle Ages. Read We Were Soldiers Once and Young just after that. Re-read Blackhawk Down after that. Just finished Catfish and Mandela, by Andrew Phan while in Vietnam a couple months ago when we adopted our son. All good, light reads. But I assumed MisterE's question was what we all were reading now, which is just books about raising young'uns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I have been spending all my time with "Introduction to the Human Body" and "The Anatomy coloring Book" you would think I would have staight A's too bad I am soo blonde B's will have to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 sobo said: Finished Timeline, by Micheal Crighton last year. Good book about jumping back in time to the Middle Ages. Read We Were Soldiers Once and Young just after that. Re-read Blackhawk Down after that. Just finished Catfish and Mandela, by Andrew Phan while in Vietnam a couple months ago when we adopted our son. All good, light reads. But I assumed MisterE's question was what we all were reading now, which is just books about raising young'uns. have you read "Real Boys" by william pollack? or "The confident child" By Terri Apter?? I realy enjoyed both of those I don't neccisarily agree with every thing in both books, but I did find them helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 THE VISION BY TOM BROWN JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Muffy, No I haven't. I've read a couple of books by Gavin Debecker (i think that's who it is) about natural instincts of kids and stuff (like fear and self-preservation), Raising Cain by two chiold psychologists from the East Coast, The Unhurried Child (real good book about not beating competitiveness into a kid at the expense of being a kid growing up), and How to Raise an Unspoiled Child. Know any other good books on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Oh! And How to Grow and Make your Own Organic Baby Food. Yeah I know, a bit over the top, but we have a garden, adn my wife likes gardening and hates pesticides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Trash's Reading List: "Rebuilding Your Chevy 350: Mazimum Horsepower" "Guns, Guns, and More Guns" "Mee Reed Gud, U Reed Gudder" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 NECRO IF I HAD KNOW I WAS WITHIN A STONES THROW OF YOU ON SUNDAY I WOULD HAVE COME OVER AND HARRASED YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Necronomicon said: Trash's Reading List: "Rebuilding Your Chevy 350: Mazimum Horsepower" "Guns, Guns, and More Guns" "Mee Reed Gud, U Reed Gudder" that's about spot on, and don't forget Hustler and Soldier of Fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 kil TV, unplug Internet. lots of time to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 sobo said: Muffy, No I haven't. I've read a couple of books by Gavin Debecker (i think that's who it is) about natural instincts of kids and stuff (like fear and self-preservation), Raising Cain by two chiold psychologists from the East Coast, The Unhurried Child (real good book about not beating competitiveness into a kid at the expense of being a kid growing up), and How to Raise an Unspoiled Child. Know any other good books on the subject? I think the only other thing you need is a full library of Dr, Suess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Sobo, for Gods sake don't fall for all that shit about not instilling competition in kids. They were born with it. I've got twins...we have avoided 'competition' when feasible...but they naturally compete, and kids to some extent thrive on competition! Just teach them not to be obsessed with it, but for goodness sake let them enjoy the natural pride of excelling. If you want no-nonsense old-school child raising advice, read stuff by John Rosemond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 No Doctor Suess yet. We do have Where the Wild Things Are, Goodnight Moon, Bunny My Honey, and Nut Brown Hare. And a bunch of others I can't remember right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 RobBob, We aren't trying to de-instill competition in him; not at all. Friendly competition is healthy. What we don't want is to be like so many other "soccer parents" that stand at the sidelines exhorting their kid to "win at all costs" or pressuring him through the young years to excell like a brainiac and getting him to take the SATs in the fifth grade or something like that. That kind of pressure on a kid is not healthy. He will win, and he will lose. He will get things right, and he will get things wrong. And it's all OK. I will look for that book you mentioned and possibly give it a read. Thanks for the heads up. You, too, Muffy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 backcountry ski oregon ~ corniez three sisters wilderness map ~ 8===D Spray, Volume 2003 ~ cc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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