The_North_Face Posted November 16, 2001 Posted November 16, 2001 Join us Friday at 7:00 p.m. for a free slideshow with backcountry ski guru, Gary Brill. A connoisseur of great snow and spectacular runs for a sampling of fresh powder slopes and long corn snow runs from British Columbia to California, and from Washinton to Utah. Along the way, Gary will discuss some tips on finding and selecting new runs and on controlling risk in a high-risk environment. Gary has been a backcountry enthusiast for over 30 years and for the past 15 years has provided avalanche course instruction for over 2,300 students. This exhilarating presentation is guaranteed to have you dreaming about that perfect backcountry powder ski or snowboard run! Hope to see you there! The North Face1023 First AvenueSeattle, WA 98104206-622-4111 Quote
willstrickland Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 Will there be refreshments served? Cheese and wine I presume, I see there's no shortage of cheeseCheverolet Avalanche Yuppie Special North Face Edition SUV gas guzzling environment killing fucker Quote
Guest Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 Screw the Northface! They fucked my good buddy out of $2K when their stock went tits up. Now don't say it was my buddies own fault. He listened to his bitch fat assed ex girlfriend, yes, but the managment of TNF screwed everybody by channel stuffing and stock manipulations. I don't know why the SEC didn't get involved. Fuck you North Face, and Fuck that pompous personality lacking piece of shit. Gary, I will never forget you dissing me in Moab in 1991! Gary sucks Dan Larson! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 I here Gary is a really cool dude. I dont know anything about TNF. Philfort, Bonzo is just jackin his jaw Quote
Dan_Larson Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 He apparently had alot of class and saw your worthless ass coming a mile away BONZO. Quote
Sean_Halling Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 Hey I think the Air Force and Navy have bombed Afghanistan enough...there is an uglier, more evil target that needs to be taken out no matter what the cost...the TNF EDITION AVALANCHE. Give me a f**cking break...I'm sure we will soon see lots of them prowling the streets of Seattle though. I heard Panther has even been seen driving one around the Pass. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 Rumor has it halling that YOU drive a super gizmo brand new Super Ugly Vehicle 1799 punk get ready! Quote
AlpineK Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 The NF is well on it's way to being just like Eddie Bauer. You know Eddie Bauer edition Ford Excursion. I can see it now The NF edition Ford Big Ass Sucker Mobile. I bet Dan Larson would buy one. Quote
Sean_Halling Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 Well Cpt. if you consider my Gold 2002 Caddy Escalante SUV ugly...then I am guilty. I consider it classy. As for gizmos....all I have is the thumping sound system and the 22 inch dubs. I consider those as neccesary items....not gizmos. MikeAdam sure seems to like to ride in it. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 17, 2001 Posted November 17, 2001 It be soundinz like a cool mobile I betz it tracts dem hoz! Iza herd u wuz gitin sumtin difrent Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted November 18, 2001 Posted November 18, 2001 The North Farce may suck but Gary always has the best pictures. The only avalanche I have seen this winter is all the great bullshit on this web site. Quote
Figger_Eight Posted November 18, 2001 Posted November 18, 2001 Gary's a way cool guy. The North Face sucks ass. Chevy Avalanches suck ass. They probably suck each others' asses. [ 11-18-2001: Message edited by: Figger Eight ] Quote
johnny Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 Hey, someone mentioned Eddie Bauer Edition Fords. I HAVE ONE!!! They are soooooo dang cool!!! OK so mine is a '85 Bronco II with 200K on it that I bought when I moved here for $1700 and had to immediatly put a muffler on, a new battery, a MAJOR tune up, new radial arm bushings, a valve adjustment, coolant flush and thermostat, rear u-jounts, clean the carpets, pressure wash the engine, do the rear brakes....there is more to do still but I have only had it a month. But DAMMIT, it says EDDIE BAUER right on the dash!!!! The coolest part is the inflatable, yes thats right everyone, inflatable lumbar supports. It even has window cranks, no buttons, those are for wussies. Anyone want a ride?????? BTW, Gary seemed cool when I saw him once. And free slide shows rock. TNF was great till Jansport bought 'em and all their good designers went on to create Mountain Hardwear. A little like Harley Davidson in the '80s when AMC took over........... OK, I am done now. Good morning everyone! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 The way I look at it is that these dudes from TNF were just doing their job. Can't blame em for dat! Quote
willstrickland Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 I never meant to imply that Gary wasn't cool, from what I've seen he's pretty rad. I just thought the damn Avalanche was too much. And read the description on the Avalanche page...What the hell is a North Face special seat? It has batteries and heater filaments like that new jacket or something? (batteries so when that piece of shit chevy breaks down you can keep your ass thawed while waiting for a tow truck?) Halling is pimpin a Caddy? "Where da hoz at? East side, see hoz are like a car 'cause I take 'em for a test drive" - Kid Rock Quote
johnny Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 You are right Will, they look just plain silly. The scary thing is that with improved technology (ignoring TNF heated seats and official logo floor mats) many of these large SUV's actually get better gas milage than many of the sedans and other passenger cars we all used to drive in the 80's I have a friend who just bought a Ford F250 crew-cab pickup to haul his camper and tow his driftboat. It has a diesel large enough to pull a house off its foundation and still gets 16 mpg in town. Ask the nearest v6 Toyota fourrunner owner what kind of mileage they get. I never want a vehicle that big but there it is! P.S. My groovey new Bronco gets about the same mileage, and I could probably park it in the back of an Excursion. (Which comes with the same diesel if you want it) Quote
willstrickland Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 You know Johnny, it amazes me that there aren't more turbo diesels in cars. The only company putting a diesel in a passenger car these days (for sale in the US anyway) is VW. Seems like Ford and/or Daimer/Chrysler would adapt those powerstroke or Cummins TDs to a car sized powerplant. Those TDI VWs get close to 50mpg. Even Mercedes doesn't sell a US diesel anymore (to my knowledge anyway). For the most part, diesel engines are tanks, and get much better mileage. They run a little dirtier, but I'd imagine that if the Feds mandated it, they could find effective pollution control mechanisms. Also, diesel takes less refining than regular gas, so should theoretically be cheaper. Quote
Dru Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 Do you have to wear a BD Avalung to ride in a TNF Avalanche? Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 Nah just some Burger Sling yuppie love special sauce is what I heard Quote
johnny Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 Thing is that diesels run much tighter than gas engines, higher compression; the result of much smaller tolerances and better part machining. They run best at lower, more controlled rpm's. They work great at consistant stuff like highway driving and pulling houses off of foundations (and hauling loads). Also work great at moving BIGGER vehichles around. It seems to be a matter of scale. Those old VW Rabbit diesels were just too damn small to see any benefit from a diesel (those little powerplants are better off as generators!) Everyone is trained to want to wind out a small car moter (thanks Japan!!) Little benefit and fuel availability make for a very small market for micro-diesel vehichles, hence their slow demise. They work excellent at moving Ford Excursions with 23' Sea Ox's in tow however. Gas engines just cannot compete at that! P.S. Most of that nasty smoke eminating from a diesel is relatively large particulate matter that setles out pretty quick, unlike carbon monoxide and other gasses which are much worse for us!!!!!!! OK so I like talking about cars too even if I know about as much about them as I do climbing: just enough to be dangerous to myself as well as others Quote
johnny Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 P.S. I think Japanese vehichles absolutely ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (just to avoid the inevitable spray I realized may come from that innocent comment in my last post...) Cavey, how do I import and use all those cool graemlins I keep seeing here. You know, the ones that are not available on the bottom of this page????? Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 http://www.duhspot.com/users/smiley/s/otn/funny/http://www.paintedblue.cc/emoticons/ Use the button below and insert the link. The rest is taken care of by the button creating the tags. Quote
Backcountry Posted November 19, 2001 Posted November 19, 2001 How many spark plugs does a V-8 diesel have???? Diesel engines have compression ratios on the magnitude of 26 thru 32 to 1. Whereas most automobiles are between 8 and 9 to 1. The reason diesels have such high compression ratios is that there is no spark plugs. The fuel is auto-ignited when compressed at that high of a ratio. The tolerances in a diesel actually start out looser, as the heat generated from that is much greater, therefore thermal expansion has to be taken into account. This is also the reason why my Cummins takes a 3 gallon oil change. The volume of the oil is required to feed spray bars that spray directly to the bottom side of the piston crown to aid in cooling. Diesel is injected at about 17,000 PSI to form a super fine mist and to overcome the rising compression pressures as the piston is coming towards top dead center. I would reccomend checking the line pressure with your finger tip. Automotive fuel injection systems run on about 80 psi injection pressure. Diesels create torque. Torque is work. Torque is generated via the super high compression ratios and mech advantage- large pistons and long strokes. Cummins diesels are an in-line 6 cylinder which then creates more torque. The powerstrokes are a V-8 which creates more horsepower. The increased gas mileage chiefly is gained from the lowered RPM's...My truck cruises at about 1700 RPM doing 70 down the road...The truck by itself wieghs 7100# empty...I can tow another 6500# and still maintain 13-14 mpg... Damn wasnt this thread about spraying TNF? I just love all the posuers...Maybe we can get Calvin peeing on the TNF logo stickers??? Rumor has it Larson drives an avalanche... Quote
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