Greg_W Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Had an interesting debate last night before the Beckey slideshow with a climbing buddy's wife. How do we justify what we do for fun? I personally don't try. However, some people do and that's okay. Here's the question: would you stop climbing if your spouse asked you to? FWIW, here's a great quote that was in the most recent Black Diamond catalog: "If someone were to ask me to quit climbing because tehy love me so much and don't want to lose me, I'd be out the door so fast, that someone wouldn't have time to say adios." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 stay single and don't worry about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 I most likely wouldn't stop climbing. It is a hobby, a pastime of mine. Anyone that really loves you would not want you to stop doing what you love. That's selfish on their part. I could agree, however, to tone down the dangerousness of my endeavors. I would certainly be amenable to reducing the number of outings in order to hang out with her more. All this is coming from an unmarried man, so I don't know for sure if this is how I'd be if I was married. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 31 years ago if my wife had told me I had to give up climbing and all the other on the edge stuff I've done I would of told her it was my way or the highway. But she was as nuts as me, so it worked out. Now she is sane and hell my persona speaks for itself....and I am proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Yeah, I'm with klenke. No way in hell I'm quitting climbing for a girl. I could see toning it down as well, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 If you had to quit climbing/hiking/backcountry skiing...it's just a slower death. It's the same as asking a musician to quit playing their instrument. My dos centavos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Shit, Climbing isn't really that dangerous it just how you play your sport. The more you play the smarter you get... well guess it dosen't work forevery one. granted it is more dangourous then team sports.. but on the other hand I hear freinds breaking ankles distroying knees wrists ect.. and most of us who climb it seems teak tendons now and then but thats about it... and if you take a fall most likey you wont die from it just break something so really is that much diffrent then team sports..... The tools and hikers give this sport a bad rap but thats good in a way less people who climb more room at the crag and in the mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted March 28, 2003 Author Share Posted March 28, 2003 Skisports said: The more you play the smarter you get... I tried this argument with my buddy's wife last night. Didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 My wife hates it. But after all the $$ I've thrown down the hole, I don't think she'd let me quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted March 28, 2003 Author Share Posted March 28, 2003 trask said: stay single and don't worry about it Thanks for nothing. Why weren't you giving me this advice a year ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 only date or marry other climbers only problem is then the gear budget has to be split two ways for a lot of stuff. do i get my new crampons or does she get her crash pad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Greg_W said: trask said: stay single and don't worry about it Thanks for nothing. Why weren't you giving me this advice a year ago? I was but you dudes only think with your dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORER Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 The new girl I'm dating is a paramedic/firefighter so I seriously doubt she would tell me climbing is too dangerous. Dating is something I do......climbing is my way of life. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 I agree with Klenke. Giving up climbing would change part of who you are. And someone who wants a relationship with you shouldn't try to change you, they should accept you for who you are. It seems to me that often when relationships don't work, the people still love eachother, but just can't handle the other person's lifestyle... The love is there, they just do not make a good couple. You need both aspects for a relationship to work. So... Just date a climber. It'll be easier! (Tho make sure to have separate lives too!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted March 28, 2003 Author Share Posted March 28, 2003 So, if given the ultimatum, do you stay, and not climb, or bail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Greg_W said: So, if given the ultimatum, do you stay, and not climb, or bail? If you climb just for a sport, as a leisure activity, and you can be happy not doing it, stay. If you climb because it's an integrated part of your life, more of an attidute/lifestyle you have, bail. Giving it up then would mean giving up too much of yourself. Personally? I would bail. Doesn't mean I still wouldn't love 'em though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted March 28, 2003 Author Share Posted March 28, 2003 adventuregal said: Greg_W said: So, if given the ultimatum, do you stay, and not climb, or bail? If you climb just for a sport, as a leisure activity, and you can be happy not doing it, stay. If you climb because it's an integrated part of your life, more of an attidute/lifestyle you have, bail. Giving it up then would mean giving up too much of yourself. Personally? I would bail. Doesn't mean I still wouldn't love 'em though. My sentiments exactly, AG. Actually, in my thinking, if they wanted you to stop climbing, having gotten involved with you as a climber, it would be like your whole relationship was a lie. Then you'd get fat and she'd cheat on you with her yoga teacher anyway; better to ditch the bitch before she sells you rack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Good call, Greg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Women come and go, but climbing is forever. I think climbing is different than other sports, except for perhaps golf, in the devotion of the men and women who partake of it. It's who we are. The zebra can't change his stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Dump the bitch. They're a dime a dozen. Been married four times and don't miss any of em'. oh, but I might add that it always helps to have an attorney in the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 catbirdseat said: Women come and go, but climbing is forever. Men come and go also!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mneagle Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 First Date: bivy in the rain followed by car to car trip up Mt Cruiser in the Olympics. Kiss in the parking lot lasted hours. First unplanned bivy: 12,000 feet on Shasta with a 100+mph wind storm and -20 F weather in bivy sacks. My nose and her toes blistered and peeled. Had a distinct feeling things were going to work out. First mid-mountain decision: The thunder in the distance started while we were at Rockfall Point on Mt Baring. She was the first to say we should just keep going and risk it. Is she for real? First day ice climbing: She followed me up a WI4 and WI5 without falls, hangs or dropped screws. Yo baby! Pre-honeymoon: 8 weeks treking through Patagonia and climbing in Bolivia. When the other 2 guys couldn't handle it, we went on alone, summiting the two highest peaks in Bolivia. We got married 9 months after meeting and are now approaching our first anniversary and things are still great. I'm not trying to rub it in anyone's face that we're so happy, just trying to let you know that when you know, you know. Don't settle. Don't compromise. Wait for the right person to be there and you will never be sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 i think if the climbing is a problem, then something else will be a problem, later on down the road, so i figure out it wouldn't last anyway. ciao bambina i'd say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 adventuregal said: catbirdseat said: Women come and go, but climbing is forever. Men come and go also!!! Absolutely, it works both ways. Gals, if you man won't let you climb, then dump his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_by_Northwest Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 only date or marry other climbers Then you have to take your SO on every trip or they will be insulted that you didn't invite them. That is Hell in my opinion. Only date girls who are afraid to step off the pavement and keep your time in the mountains to yourself. I wouldn't be above climbing with or sleeping with climber chicks though-Adventuregal comment what do you think: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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