sk Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 ScottP said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: DMAN IT I should have read the whole thred before I hit play next time can we rate things... like "hey sk you want to watch this" or perhaps "hey sk don't watch this" I thought perhaps phrases like "Painful Viewing" and "Very Graphic" would have done the job. Well in my little pea pod mind "grafic" doesn't realy mean watching someone almost die. my bad I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 somehow they both did survive, if it is the video from the spanish border. shows how dangerous short hauling can be! it was a practice rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 practice! looks like they need to start practicing over snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 JoshK said: I like how the bastard standing right next to them doesn't attempt to grab the falling dudes, but rather seems to get out of the way. Two victims are better than three. That's a lot of weight to grab and hang on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 Necronomicon said: Muy graphico!! But your point is lost, in that these people were being hoisted into a helicopter, rather than climbing. The climbing related injury was probably a bit less severe than the helicopter hoist related injury. Gravity is gravity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwigle Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 It’s a sad fact ladies and gentlemen, grim as it may be, this is the ultimate reality of what we elect to do. Knowing full and well that we all take risks we need to be ready to face the possibility that one day we may be forced to confront this reality. What will you do when somebody else’s shit goes down hard, will you be mortified? Or will you detach yourself from your visceral response and respond in a cool and calculated manner. As a high angle rescue trainer / rope rescue technician and first responder, when I am in the back country I am constantly on the lookout for Gumby’s. Fingers crossed in the hopes that my trip isn’t soiled by someone else’s misfortune. Be safe y’all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 as if a gumby is anymore likely to take the big plunge than you are....get over yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Necronomicon said: Muy graphico!! But your point is lost, in that these people were being hoisted into a helicopter, rather than climbing. The climbing related injury was probably a bit less severe than the helicopter hoist related injury. Necro, I think your point is lost because it seems these guys were working on a PRACTICE rescue! Well maybe your point is valid actually, since the "climbing injury" wasn't that severe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Watch it Matt, he's a high angle rescue trainer / rope rescue technician and first responder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 the take-home point is don't go near or use helicopters unless life or limb is at stake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm still amazed nobody *in* the heli got killed on hood this year. That has to be one of the most amazing videos I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 and now they are somewhere in the mideast. good luck to them wherever they are. hope no one in oregon is set on an air evac. right now because there's a grand total of 3 nat'l guard left out of salem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwigle Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Lambone said: as if a gumby is anymore likely to take the big plunge than you are....get over yourself. My point was simply to emphasize that with my experience you grow accustom to the sight of such an incident. Judging by the reactions posted herein I got the impression that people got freaked out. Look at it objectively. Learn from the example. I was not boasting. The gumby comment is self evident, and get over yourself. Touchy little gumby, aren’t you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I've seen this video before in its entirety. The portion shown here is only about one-fourth of the total fall. It gets worse. We're all so sure it "won't happen to me". But it does...and it might. I think of this video occasionally when climbing. It enhances my vigilance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwigle Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Fairweather said: I've seen this video before in its entirety. The portion shown here is only about one-fourth of the total fall. It gets worse. We're all so sure it "won't happen to me". But it does...and it might. I think of this video occasionally when climbing. It enhances my vigilance. The point I was driving at. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 The fact that they survived is a testament to the fact they were both wearing helmets. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR HELMET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Phew, I would have forgotten to wear my helmet for dinner if I hadn't seen this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric8 Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 hehe, oh shit i'm screwed i left mine at my parents house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 catbirdseat said: The fact that they survived is a testament to the fact they were both wearing helmets. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR HELMET. Mr. Happy always wears his purple helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 AlpenTom was wearing a helmet on Gibraltar Ledge when a small rock beaned him. He didn't even mention it until later. It would have been a different story without the helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 dirtwigle, I see no corelation to your two "points." But that aside, your first post reads as if with all your training and expertise you are some sort of invincible hero waiting to rescue the poor gumby who is misfortunate enough to "soil" your trip. I don't know you, and I will not pass judgements opon you, only what you have written. As far as the gumby comment, should we meet in the mountains someday, I'll let you decide... And if you do decide that I am one of your gumbies, or should I say sheep, I will rest easy knowing that you are "constantly on the lookout" watching over me.... Come on we all know that your just die'in to pull some cowboy cable-helo extraction manuver, you ain't foolin no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 yeah, he woulda mentioned it right away. Likely by saying "OW! A small rock just hit me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm not so sure. I crashed my dirt bike into a tree awhile back. I wasn't wearing a helmet and my head hit the tree directly at like 20mph. Shit look at me, I'm normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I know my helmet kept my black and blue and cut nose (courtesy of falling ice) of a week ago from being a whole lot worse. They aren't the greatest fashion statement, but I wont be found climbing without them. It's amazing what a small piece of rock or ice can do when whizzing down at high speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 fern said: yeah, he woulda mentioned it right away. Likely by saying "OW! A small rock just hit me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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