freeclimb9 Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Synopsis: "I dislike you. I suck at climbing, but you totally suck. I hate spray, but spray nevertheless. Bitch." Here's a visual: If any of y'all give a fuck that Robert the Polisher disses on the PNW climbing scene, you have serious self-loathing issues. Quote
Thinker Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 I find him quite entertaining....along the lines of Rush Limbaugh, Tom Leykis, and Phil Henry. As long as you don't take any of them too seriously they're fun to listen to and poke fun at. Quote
Off_White Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 I dunno, a troll is not necessarily a bad thing, and he's really quite restrained compared to when he gets all worked up in a lather. Quote
Thinker Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 restrained......yeah! I like him better when he's making death threats and passing out his phone number like he did last year on Craghag.com that was a classic! Quote
RuMR Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Dru.... I think that's his whole point...he's ticked a bunch of .13's and onsights .12's sport climbing, done a decent amount of stuff traditionally and considers himself weak...so he doesn't spray. He figures everyone else oughta adopt the same philosophy. For what its worth, the guy's gone through hell just to get to the states and did truly live a climbing bum lifestyle in the early nineties... Quote
Dru Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 RuMR said: Dru.... I think that's his whole point...he's ticked a bunch of .13's and onsights .12's sport climbing, done a decent amount of stuff traditionally and considers himself weak...so he doesn't spray. He figures everyone else oughta adopt the same philosophy. For what its worth, the guy's gone through hell just to get to the states and did truly live a climbing bum lifestyle in the early nineties... so, there's nothing special about him, he's just your average climber these days is what you're sayin. back in the 80's or early 90's a resume like that might have made you hot shit but this is 2003. Quote
RuMR Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 (edited) That is exactly what he's saying...he's never said anything about what he's done at all...Try to find a quote where he implies he's a bad ass... i'll bet you can't Edited February 19, 2003 by RuMR Quote
Dru Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 ive never heard him say he is a bad ass but i have seen him say everyone in the pnw is a bunch of sucky losers cause we aren't euros. waaaaaah . stevie haston said it funnier years ago. of course haston said the euros are suck too. in fact everyone is suck but haston. bubu used to be good but then he downrated one of haston's routes which automatically made him suck!! Quote
vegetablebelay Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 And where is Marek in all of this? Quote
RuMR Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 whatever dru...you sound like your taking bob personally... He's only calling folks who put out the bad ass banner... Quote
Thinker Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 RuMR said: whatever dru...you sound like your taking bob personally... He's only calling folks who put out the bad ass banner... maybe today. other days he attacks unproked. Quote
JoshK Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 All I know is 9 times out of 10 the canuck and amurikan climbers I meet on the road are nicer to talk to and less arogant than the euros I meet. That's all I care about. Quote
Dru Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 im not good enough to take it personal. i just climb for fun! that said, there are a lot of "better than Bob" climbers out there, some of whom I know and others whom I only know OF, who dont feel the need to talk about how suck all climbers are but them. Quote
allthumbs Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Canooks and Americans are essentially brothers. Except for Quebec bastards. Europeans live in a vacuum. Quote
RuMR Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Point taken about climbing for fun... Point not taken about folks you know/know of...Bob NEVER said he was a great climber, ever, despite what he said about other climbers...i sound like a broken record. Quote
ryland_moore Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 I agree with RuMR on this. Polish Bob has never to my knowledge talked Twightish. There are a lot of climbers out there who are bad-ass in my book, yet you've never heard about them b/c they don't say shit. For example, there's a guy down here in Eugene named Kimball, but you'd never know he can climb 5.14 and you've never seen him or heard about him unless you spend time at Smith, Mt. Charleston, or Rifle. Also, two years ago, some bad ass ice climbers were doing some mixed routes in CO, and a guy walked up with really used looking gear and sporting a Star Trek t-shirt. He walked right up to this sick climb and proceeded to boulder out a V-5 with gloves and crampons over a thin ice covering a freezing cold stream and then sent the hard M8 problem when the others couldn't do it. There are a lot of these folks. They just don't send their info in to quick flashes. I guess you can talk a big game and not perform which is what PB is getting at. I've even found myslef guilty of this from time to time. Wishing and wanting to be able to do something and actually doing it are two different things. I do disagree with him on what people out there are doing. I think, because of this mentality of being humble, a lot that is going on is rarely heard about until it happens. Anyone done that hard 5.13 trad line on Monkey Face yet from the ground up or has it still not seen a first ascent without pre-paced gear? There's a proj. from someone. Not me as I was throwing myself at .11s last weekend, and left more frustrated than ever before. My two cents. Quote
specialed Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Didn't seem like Bob was dissing on PNW climber's abilities per se but more their motivation to go out and suffer and grovel in this area's less than perfect conditions. Besides who cares, Fuck the Euros. They just build trams into all the mountains, drill metal handbars everywhere and grid-bolt everything. Not to mention their disgusting use of neon and lycra and gratuitous self-promotion. And we could drink them under the table. Especially if Caveman is on our team Quote
Dru Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 specialed said: Didn't seem like Bob was dissing on PNW climber's abilities per se but more their motivation to go out and suffer and grovel in this area's less than perfect conditions. Besides who cares, Fuck the Euros. They just build trams into all the mountains, drill metal handbars everywhere and grid-bolt everything. Not to mention their disgusting use of neon and lycra and gratuitous self-promotion. And we could drink them under the table. Especially if Caveman is on our team i dunno about that have you EVER seen Russian climbers drink OMFG they drink vodka like its pints of stout Quote
specialed Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 I was more thinking about the 101 lb Frenchie sport climbers. Eastern Euros are a different breed. Quote
JoshK Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 i dunno about that have you EVER seen Russian climbers drink OMFG they drink vodka like its pints of stout russians are hardcore. I agree with the point of euros being hard is bullshit. Approachs are a joke there. How hard would any of the pickets be if I could ride a fucking train right up next to them? Yeah...that's real suffering Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 What I'm curious about (oh god, really) is who around here sprays about how badass they are? Who? Who? Name one name. I can't think of one, which makes a large portion of the post irrelevant, no? Quote
RobBob Posted February 19, 2003 Posted February 19, 2003 Canooks and Americans are essentially brothers. Except for Quebec bastards. I think I'll drop this one on my Quebecoise mother-in-law! Quote
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