Bruce MacLachlan Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Kickstarter for my new guidebook for Washington and the surrounding area. Contribute to get your copy for the coming climbing season! .... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/letsrockwa/lets-rock Quote
OlympicMtnBoy Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Cool, looks like a nice book for new folks. Quote
olyclimber Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 9:26 AM, Bruce MacLachlan said: Kickstarter for my new guidebook for Washington and the surrounding area. Contribute to get your copy for the coming climbing season! .... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/letsrockwa/lets-rock Looks great. Good for you Bruce. Great idea with your book. Quote
underscore_child Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 Consider reading this thread before you kickstart anything: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/120263239/thoughts-on-this-newb-guidebook Quote
underscore_child Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 Although it looks like he's reached his goal already :shrug: Quote
JasonG Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 The plot thickens. But it also reminds me why I prefer the lonesome brush to the crowded crags. Quote
Rad Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 Similar themes in threads on FB: access issues ignored, developers ignored, copyright issues ignored, safety issues ignored... 1 Quote
genepires Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Rad said: Similar themes in threads on FB: access issues ignored, developers ignored, copyright issues ignored, safety issues ignored... copyright issues? like copying verbage from other guidebooks? and the access issues? Shouldn't the access should have been sorted out before any route development happens? I suppose I could go on that thread but it sounds depressing. Quote
Rad Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 8 hours ago, genepires said: copyright issues? like copying verbage from other guidebooks? and the access issues? Shouldn't the access should have been sorted out before any route development happens? I suppose I could go on that thread but it sounds depressing. It's all out there if you want to read it. Better to go slay powder while we have it... Quote
DPS Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 Well, that provided 30 minutes of harmless entertainment. Quote
underscore_child Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 I hope it didn't take 30 minutes for you to read that 17 post thread... Quote
DPS Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 16 hours ago, underscore_child said: I hope it didn't take 30 minutes for you to read that 17 post thread... I'm slow. Quote
Bruce MacLachlan Posted April 12, 2021 Author Posted April 12, 2021 Okay, so the book arrived and it looks splendid (I've also been starting a new job which required a lot of onboarding), and now it's off to those who backed it and seeing as the facebook groups are having fun deleting things, and because the dogpiling was getting old and wasn't going anywhere, here we go with an update. I took the advice and Elk and Tectonic have no GPS or directions and are listed as under development and to be avoided until such time as the route fellows are done. Funcadia is listed as being small and so move on if there's a bunch of cars (as there have been when we've come down from it - we're early birds), also because of the spring, I explained why you should pack it in and out. Esmeralda, some are just listed as warnings because they are chossy and runout, the one good one gives people plenty of advice about what to expect from this gnarly fellow. Dichotomy. The guy invited me to it online. If it's a death trap, why send people there? If he wants to remove all the bolts in a fit of pique, well that seems excessive, as does referring to it's inclusion as 'a dark day for washington climbing' but that's up to him, he made it, he can demolish it. And Fossil lists the access issues. It's in earlier Falcon guides, it's online, and it's covered because if things change, the beta is good to go. Jayhawk is on youtube, it's been around for years, and every time we go it's full of people, it's not even remotely secret. The Tieton book has been out for about a decade and still Vantage is packed and Tieton is only ever really crowded at Lava Point, so fears of crowds seem a little baseless. Especially considering this book is online only and a limited run. Any areas that are crumbly or hazardous, I've pointed this out to help keep people aware and safe, but climbing is something where you gauge your own level of risk, it's up to people, not community overseers to determine that. That's my opinion, and it may of course not be shared, but having your own view on something is also a choice you get to make. I've made as many accommodations as I think are fair, not publishing it because I didn't ask permission or I'm not a proper climber or paid some sort of ephemeral 'dues' with the locals wasn't one of them. I had oodles of fun explaining my position and rationale in significant depth in this interview, so if you want to formulate an opinion and can endure my accent, give it a listen and then if you still disagree, that's fine. TTFN Bruce Quote
underscore_child Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 I'm pleasantly surprised. Thanks for being accomodating, Bruce. Quote
Bruce MacLachlan Posted April 13, 2021 Author Posted April 13, 2021 23 hours ago, underscore_child said: I'm pleasantly surprised. Thanks for being accomodating, Bruce. No prob, some of the route setters made some good points, I concurred and made the changes they requested. Quote
underscore_child Posted May 17, 2021 Posted May 17, 2021 OK I know it's been a month but are you seriously gonna call them route setters ew Quote
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