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Depends on what you're willing to settle for. There are some super light ones out there, but how long will they last and how much protection will they really give you?

 

I bought the standard OR model. It gives great protection and weighs 1lb and a few ounces. It's not the best, but I find it's pretty much bombproof and very light at the same time. It's a good compromise in my opinion.

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It is almost bomb proof but any marmont that comes near my bivy bag will get a rock in logded in its head when I was up doing forbidin a few years back a marmont ate the straps on my helmet and through my bivy bag. BTW check interagal designs

Dave

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marmont?

 

interagal?

 

Back to the shuttle, Spock! We've landed on the long lost yelrotflmao.gifPlanet Of Muffy Spellers!

 

 

LOL. dont worry dru, I have it on good authority that skisports had tipped a few back bigdrink.gifbigdrink.gif when this was typed up (1:36am...cough cough smile.gif)

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Serratus makes a superlightweight job, marketed as a VBL, but made out of semibreathable nylon. MEC had only a couple and I picked up the last LONG size. Not on the mec or Serratus sites, but keep an eye out for it if you want a cool emerg bivy. $60 CDN kinda steep though.

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Serratus makes a superlightweight job, marketed as a VBL, but made out of semibreathable nylon.

 

Ummm....

 

This doesn't make any sense. A Vapor Barrier Liner should not be breathable.

 

What's up with that? confused.gif

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Depends what you consider a VBL. Twight calls a microfibre windshirt worn over polypro a VBL layer as it inhibits some moisture but not all. Having once tried to bivy in a coated VBL once in Idaho and waking up in a peculiar cold sauna, I think that a semipermeable nylon job would be a good compromise.

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Depends what you consider a VBL. Twight calls a microfibre windshirt worn over polypro a VBL layer as it inhibits some moisture but not all.

 

Well, Twight says fun isn't necessarily fun. A vapor barrier liner should be a liner that is a barrier to vapor. Barrier as in impermeable. The point of the barrier is to keep the outer insulation dry from sweat.

 

Polypro? Yuck. laugh.gif

 

Wool Rocks! fruit.gif

 

 

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from warmlite.com:

"Gore defined “breathable” as passing water vapor about 1/20th as fast as uncoated fabric, (the same as most urethane coatings)". The bivy bag I have works as a VBL, though not as bad as a polyethylene bag (i.e. Hefty-esque).

What do you want for your money?

BTW, with regard to "Barrier as in impermeable", a net is a barrier also.

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barrier - n. a thing that prevents passage or approach. (Webster's New World Dictionary). So a vapor barrier prevents passage of vapor. Like the garbage bag (hefty-esque).

 

I understand the concepts. I'm personally a big fan of windshirts over baselayers for travel in most conditions. But the windshirt isn't a barrier to vapor transport. It does slow down transport, but it is not a barrier.

 

 

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Warmlite is full of shit. Their mantra of "anybody who doesn't use what we use is stupid". . . My $.02.

Yea, the old crank had some cra cra ideas. But the old Stephenson Tent catalog centerfolds were spank-worthy.

 

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The Outdoor Research Wintersack is made of Dryloft and weighs 13 oz.

 

The Integral Designs saxk is made of Pertex microfibre and weighs 11 oz.

 

The dryloft bag would be more weatherproof, but a microfibre bag breathes better.

 

The warmlite website is somewhat fanatical, but their sleeping bag models are worth a second look. grin.gif

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jbclimber said:

rbw1966 said:

Bibler Winter Bivvy. At a scant 9 oz's its sure to be a hit. Compresses small enough to fit in a pocket. winter bivvy

 

 

Does anybody have the Bibler winter bivy? I am curious how you like it if you do have one.

 

I have one but haven't had the opportunity to use it yet. I'll post a review after a trip next week.

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rbw1966 said:

jbclimber said:

rbw1966 said:

Bibler Winter Bivvy. At a scant 9 oz's its sure to be a hit. Compresses small enough to fit in a pocket. winter bivvy

 

 

Does anybody have the Bibler winter bivy? I am curious how you like it if you do have one.

 

I have one but haven't had the opportunity to use it yet. I'll post a review after a trip next week.

 

rbw,

 

Did you get out and use the bibler, and if so how did you like it?

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For anybody who hasn't seen the MEC lightweight Bivy, it's pretty sweet.

 

http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=118583&FOLDER<>folder_id=590703&bmUID=1049349972721

 

As far as I can tell, integral designs makes it for them. It's basically a totally stripped ID bivy. It's made out of their nice waterproof/breathable fabric (same stuff as ID and bibler tents), but lacks zippers, bug netting, etc. at only 1 pound, I think it's a great comprimise between the glorified garbage bags and the full on bivies.

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