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I just got a helium to replace an old synthetic lost-all-its-loft bag. Beats me if the 900 fill is hype or not, but the thing is way light, and compresses down to almost nothing. I normally sleep fairly cool, so I'll see how warm it is this weekend.

'nuf said:

I don't know the exact distance from the dam, but the distance from the main road turn off is 13.9 miles to the parking lot. When I went in January I called the local climbing shops and asked for conditions, they were real helpful and had good beta - you could try them. If you go, post back here with a tr. Barrel Mountaineering 240 East Main Street Bozeman Montana USA ph: 800.779.7364 or 406.582.1335 fx: 406.582.1302 Northern Lights Trading Co 1716 West Babcock Bozeman, MT 59715 Phone: 406-586-2225 Toll-Free: 866-586-2225 Fax: 406-586-7544 Email: greg_nltc@hotmail.com

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - this is true, but they are not entitled to their own facts.

Oh and I'm sure, the dem's are going to get their ass kicked in 04 just like they did in this past mid term.

Dude you're a fuckin clueless loser. Language has meaning. Words have consequences. Have you ever read Orwell? Do you know the difference between hyperbole and self delusional insanity? I bet all you lunatic, america hating, pot smoking, hippies wake up every morning, look in the mirror and say: Bush is a dictator. Ashcroft is a Nazi. America is a terrorist nation. blah, blah, blah. It might make your drug addled brain feel better but it doesn't make it true.

God dam it they better share. GW is sending over a special envoy to retrieve the goods to bring back to Camp David for analysis. Maybe they sould send it to the Muir Hut. I'll make the trip up. If you go tomorrow, would it be "Muir on Saturday"

Hey NxN, explain to me how any diplomatic efforts could have persuaded France to vote our way. During the negotiations for 1441 DeVillipan told Powell to his face that France would support a war if Iraq refused to comply. Powell believed him, DeVillipan was lying. Schroeder (a teenage communist with ties to the red brigades) used anti-war rhetoric in the german national elections in a cynical ploy to win reelection. It was a Dick Morris-like triangulation effort, attempting to peel off enough support from the communist remnants in the east to ensure victory. Like all cynical ploys they don't work for long and his party has since lost huge in mid term elections. So, what policy, what diplomatic effort could have possibly convinced the unconvincable to support us at the UN? (Completely leaving aside the question of why so many people think we should subordinate our security to this body)

Hey Dave, You do know that Robert Byrd was a grand wizard in the KKK don't you? I find it kind of odd that a good liberal like you would tolerate a guy like that. Check this out. ps. what are all you whining bleeding hearts gonna do when it turns out all the mean spirited, war mongering, conservatives were right all along about this war? .. oh nevermind, you folks are never any good with reality.

That would be the shit !! Dan Rather interviews one of Saddam's surgically enhanced body doubles.

"Saddam" tonight Saddam and Dan

I bought mine from Northernmountain.com It seems they only have the 2 door model as a blem right now. But they've got the green I tent for $446: http://www.northernmountain.com/pgi-ProductSpec?50170,7 note: copy and paste the url (ubb code doesn't like the comma) I'm sure you could check other online sites to find the best deal. I don't know if bibler sells blems directly or not.

I have an I-tent and have no complaints. One thing you might consider is buying a cosmetic blemish. I saved almost 2 bills, and 3 years later I still can't figure out what the blem was.

Ok Dave, I'll bite ... This article shows some of the soul searching that has been going on among the intellectual left. Or at least that part of the left that is still willing to entertain the notion that they might have been mistaken in the past. But the author seems to fall into the trap that many (most?) opponents of the war have - namely they've let their overwhelming hatred of GWB cloud their judgement. I'll make a confession here. I despised Bill Clinton. All you folks on the left that dislike gw because of Florida, or because you think he's dumb, or because you think he was born with a silver spoon have no idea how much many of us on the right hated BC. I let this cloud my judgement. I opposed Bosnia and Kosovo because it was BC that was president. I was in Bosnia, I saw the good we were doing, but I rationalized away my opposition to the policy anyway. I was wrong. Do you guys think that maybe, just maybe, you are wrong about this war? Maybe your blind hatred of the president is clouding your judgement? I'll leave you with the money paragraph from the article you cite, and ask you if you agree with it's premise:

What do I think? I think I need to get a beanie cap and start bouldering at the UW so I fit in better with all the peach fuzz around here! btw, how old do you have to be to be considered an old guy? (maybe I'm still safe)

Short tacoma story: On my way home from work one day, I stop at a mailbox to send off the last payment for my car. Next morning, no car.

me? I've been to tacoma once

ok, want to start a pissing match? How long have you lived outside the US, and in which countries? I eagerly await your world-weary experiences.

I think this says more about you than me. War is serious business, and oposition to war should be similarily serious. When protesters behave like clowns, ordinary people will assume their arguments aren't worthy of consideration. Maybe in the circles you travel there are different social and cultural norms, but most of america is still fairly socially conservative. "Bellies not Bombs" is not a persuasive argument. Is this Noam Chomsky's "oligopolies are running the country" argument? These kind of arguments are as paranoid and wrong headed on the left as the black helicopter conspiracy theories on the right. I can't speak for the rest of the vast right wing conspiracy, but for me I can think for myself thankyou. And I'm quite happy to work for a "money grubbing power hungry piece of shit" company, because I'm pretty sure that the alternative would provide the economic opportunities of - oh say, haiti. gee, thanks for that thoughtful and insightful commentary. I'll be sure to consider it the next time I'm debating issues of war and peace. How would you define uptight? How about the ability to engage in political conversation/humor without resorting to ad hominen attacks. well you got me there.

Hasn't Hillary told you about the vast right wing conspiracy? All us right wingers get our marching orders encoded in the rush limbaugh show.

Ok, pick one ...

I got there relatively early - 7ish, so I caught the gaper show on the way down. It wasn't just the plastics and giant packs some of these folks had, but full alpine regalia complete with helmets, ice axes, and one dude with - I shit you not - wands!! .. but hey, if I wasn't such a gaper myself I would have been somewhere other than si.

suits never have to protest. gov't gives em what they want... If the protesters looked like (and actually were) normal people maybe I'd pay attention to them. As it is, why should I give a shit what a bunch of freaks think?

I think that level of discourse about sums up the intelligence of your average lefty