jja

Once you get to Canal Flats what's the approach to Gib Wall?

allright dude, you just lost all credibility (if you had any). Alright then, are you a pacifist?? because that's the implication - war is never justified and peace at all and any costs. I disagree completely, but it's a moral and consistent postition to take. So, do you oppose all war all the time or just this one?

I think the carabiner thing is better with one of those other friction knots, like a kleimheist.

While I wouldn't call gw a war mongerer, I think it's telling that our strongest european support is coming from countries that have a real, vivid, and recent experience with tyranny. The east european countries are becoming the real europe, outgrowing the tired, old, staid, and smug french and germans almost 2 to 1. The franco/germans see the inevitability of their decline and are lashing out. The czech republic is the jewel of eastern europe, grand cities, a history of opposing tyranny (remember the prague spring?) and a philosopher/president that will go down in history along with lech walesa, pope john paul II, ronald reagan, and thatcher as the architects of the final defeat of communism. War is a terrible thing, but it's far from the worst thing imaginable. "We must fight, is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God, I know not what course others may take, but for me, Give me Liberty or Give me Death!" - Patrick Henry

what he said

The "new" europe gets it, do you? January 30, 2003 Europe and America must stand united THE real bond between the United States and Europe is the values we share: democracy, individual freedom, human rights and the Rule of Law. These values crossed the Atlantic with those who sailed from Europe to help create the USA. Today they are under greater threat than ever. The attacks of 11 September showed just how far terrorists — the enemies of our common values — are prepared to go to destroy them. Those outrages were an attack on all of us. In standing firm in defence of these principles, the governments and people of the United States and Europe have amply demonstrated the strength of their convictions. Today more than ever, the transatlantic bond is a guarantee of our freedom. We in Europe have a relationship with the United States which has stood the test of time. Thanks in large part to American bravery, generosity and far-sightedness, Europe was set free from the two forms of tyranny that devastated our continent in the 20th century: Nazism and Communism. Thanks, too, to the continued cooperation between Europe and the United States we have managed to guarantee peace and freedom on our continent. The transatlantic relationship must not become a casualty of the current Iraqi regime’s persistent attempts to threaten world security. In today’s world, more than ever before, it is vital that we preserve that unity and cohesion. We know that success in the day-to-day battle against terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction demands unwavering determination and firm international cohesion on the part of all countries for whom freedom is precious. The Iraqi regime and its weapons of mass destruction represent a clear threat to world security. This danger has been explicitly recognised by the United Nations. All of us are bound by Security Council Resolution 1441, which was adopted unanimously. We Europeans have since reiterated our backing for Resolution 1441, our wish to pursue the UN route and our support for the Security Council, at the Prague Nato Summit and the Copenhagen European Council. In doing so, we sent a clear, firm and unequivocal message that we would rid the world of the danger posed by Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction. We must remain united in insisting that his regime is disarmed. The solidarity, cohesion and determination of the international community are our best hope of achieving this peacefully. Our strength lies in unity. The combination of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism is a threat of incalculable consequences. It is one at which all of us should feel concerned. Resolution 1441 is Saddam Hussein’s last chance to disarm using peaceful means. The opportunity to avoid greater confrontation rests with him. Sadly this week the UN weapons inspectors have confirmed that his long-established pattern of deception, denial and non-compliance with UN Security Council resolutions is continuing. Europe has no quarrel with the Iraqi people. Indeed, they are the first victims of Iraq’s current brutal regime. Our goal is to safeguard world peace and security by ensuring that this regime gives up its weapons of mass destruction. Our governments have a common responsibility to face this threat. Failure to do so would be nothing less than negligent to our own citizens and to the wider world. The United Nations Charter charges the Security Council with the task of preserving international peace and security. To do so, the Security Council must maintain its credibility by ensuring full compliance with its resolutions. We cannot allow a dictator to systematically violate those Resolutions. If they are not complied with, the Security Council will lose its credibility and world peace will suffer as a result. We are confident that the Security Council will face up to its responsibilities. José María Aznar, Spain José Manuel Durão Barroso, Portugal Silvio Berlusconi, Italy Tony Blair, United Kingdom Václav Havel, Czech Republic Peter Medgyessy, Hungary Leszek Miller, Poland Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Denmark http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,482-559907,00.html

justin why don't you go and see for your fucking self, then you can clue in the rest of the "climbing" community

Amber was the best troll ever .. especially when the evildooer publicly posted all the drooling pm's she got in response.

9 hours ?? .. really ? If that's true that's not bad at all. It took me 12hrs seattle to the upper hyalite parking lot driving as fast as conditions allowed - up to about 85 - with normal stops for gas and such for just a 2 day weekend. So 9 or even 10-11 for banff sounds doable. - off to mapquest ... FROM: Kirkland, WA US TO: Bozeman, MT US Total Distance: 676.99 miles Total Estimated Time: 11 hours, 0 minutes FROM: Kirkland, WA US TO: Banff, AB CA Total Distance: 599.54 miles Total Estimated Time: 15 hours, 40 minutes .. roads in Canada must be smaller / slower.

How does that drive compare to Hyalite? ... Either way it's Lillooet or bust this weekend for me, as I can't leave 'till 9pm on friday and need to be back sunday night.

Mt. Washington in NH has got to be the most bad-ass little 6000' mountain in the world. Great ice climbs to boot The Mount Washington Observatory on the summit holds the world record for highest measured wind speed, as well as the N.H. state record for lowest measured temperature, -47 F. Weather observers (l) have been gathering data at this mountaintop station--which sports concrete walls two feet thick--since 1932. Their instruments often record extreme cold, dense fog, heavy snow and very strong winds all at once. The mountain claims the names of over 125 people who may have survived had they visited on a different day. The world record wind speed measured using a conventional wind instrument stands at 231 mph atop Mt. Washington, N.H., on April 12, 1934.

fine ass lip sync'n psuedo-country pop

huh !?

never tried drunken climbing, but skiing and drinking definitely go well together - instant courage in a bottle. As for the little nasty bugs, a packet of gatorade and a little pill is all I ever use, and I haven't had any problems - but that could just be luck so far.

that's ok, mostly it was the wife thing. That and the weather is going to really suck even up in lil' - warm temps and rain. I think I'm going to scope out the approach on something in 11worth. have fun at the pass. -john ... didn't scare you off with my bad ass skill on plastic did I?

hey cracked I'm just trying to figure out what to do this weekend after like 6 different people bailed on me .. including you maybe I'll just sit at home in my underwear, watch tv and

As I recall they would stand on that single axe in the snow, which of course makes it bomber.

Thanks to everyone who pm'd me. Staying local this weekend is probably the right thing to do: Fraser Canyon: Issued 4.00 PM pst Friday 24 January 2003 Tonight.. Clear periods at first. Periods of rain mixed with wet snow developing overnight. Low zero. Saturday.. Cloudy with showers. Snow level near 600 metres at first rising to 1800 metres during the afternoon. Wind becoming south 40 gusting 60 km/h in the afternoon. High 10. Sunday.. Periods of rain. Low 2. High 9. I think I have fairly firm plans for lil' next weekend, it's gotta get cold some time this winter, right?

I was gonna use my normal user info, but it needed a username with at least 8 characters, which 'jja' ain't got. So I just made new stuff up.

tim, I just posted a link to the nwac site. Why does the submission page ask me for a username, password, and email? what's that got to do with anything?

two potential partners just fell through, is three the lucky number?

The ususal suspects I guess, Rambles and Marble canyon, maybe oregon jack. Unless I run into somebody that tells me something else is in (like in bridge canyon).

I wasn't cutting on you - that's a great little 3,000' workout, especially when you can go during the day when no one's there. I hear you on the descent, I had the great idea of running down it one time with a pack on. It was a ton of fun making great time, but my knees paid the price.

Mazama ridge to reflection lakes.

I was at franklin falls on new years day, the main fall was flowing with some ice on either side (but not enough to climb). There is a rock wall on the right that had a lot of ice weeps on it. If I had a rope I would of tr'd it, looks like it could be a lot of dry tooling fun with even minimal ice. Google'd this pic, so the main falls must freeze up sometime: