sobo

You can get your Wu-name here. Mine's Crafty Barnardo (use it wisely, Soldier!) Or, you can get your Afghan terrorist name here. Watch out for Abdalla The Kenyan! Or, you can get your Prison-bitch name. I won't put mine up here, not in this company, no fuckin' way! Or you can ask Mr. T for a name (Hint: they're all the same from this site...).

Kinda tells ya how long it's been since I've been to Mass, doesn't it?

3 or 4 years ago?? Maybe a different provider. I did mine with WFAI (now known as Wilderness Alert)in Vancouver. Ah! Different provider, then. I did (do) mine with the NOLS Wilderness Medicine Institute.

Snoboy, I took the WFA course in 2000 and 2002 (intend to recertify in 2004), and they never mentioned anything about VGH being the be-all, end-all in frostbite treatment. How far back was that when you heard that? Mr. Natural, I, like many others here, have had the shit scared out of me by numb fingers and toes for weeks on end. All in all, I'd go with lummox's and Alex's advice. It should be warm enough up there, and with plastic boots, you should be fine. Flex your toes continuously to be sure you can still feel them. Sobo is not a medical professional. The opinions herein expressed are not meant to replace the advice of a qualified medical service provider. Use this information at your own risk. Closed course. Professional driver. Do not attempt these maneuvers at home.

The Guide covers approx. a half dozen routes in the lower Gorge near Camas, around Cape Horn and Beacon Rock. Washington side only. See Portland Rock Climbs by Tim Olson (published by Wild Horse Adventures, 2001). Credits for the above info to the Washington Ice guidebook authors. PS: It is probably too warm by now to tick these. I think you may have missed your chance this time around.

Quite funny, being raised as a Catholic. But, point of fact, you kneel in a confessional.

OMFG! What a dumb fuck! They deserve every bit of anything bad that happened as a result of that exercise of massive stupidity. Christ, throw some more chlorine in the gene pool!

Smoking, drinking, and chasing floozie girls are good ones to start with. Minor bending (i.e., one or two times,) involving shallow angles, of the toe bail should not contribute to long term fatigue of the metal. Repeated bending and/or sharp angles will contribute to work hardening and/or stress corrosion cracking, and that will cause it to break ultimately.

I'll second mvs's comment... A real treat! Normally, when I see a post that long on this board, I just skip it. That read, however, was worth every moment. I've climbed the NF of NP of Index three times, and I just can't hardly imagine what that must have been like, given the equipment they had (or didn't have! ). True hardmen.

south american cowboys dont wear anything like the outfit you describe. you gay or sumpin? OK, OK, my spelling is not as good as Muffy's. I meant to say "gaucheness", OK? And yeah, I know it's not a real word, but WTF.

And I bet people can smell you long before they see you! Capilene's nice, but it stinks... Wrong! Patagucci Capilene does not stink after washing on regular cycle. If it does, then I must smell like a rose garden naturally after a tough day in the mtns. You can never get the stink out of polypro, no matter how much washing. For me, I use a dark blue (overcast days) or a white (cloudless days) layer of capilene tops and bottoms, with both tops being long sleeve, zip necks for ventilation. Polypro liner socks, fleece layer socks. I have long since thrashed all merino wool stuff, and have never used the thermal knit cotton blends. I still have an old Wilderness Experience zip top that says it's "Thermax", a later generation polypro that wasn't 'sposed to hold stench. It only kinda works in that respect... And yes, despite the gauchness of it all, I do wear Supplex shorts over polypro on bright sunny and/or windy days on volcanoes. I do not need to explain why to this group.

OMFG! That's one mad cow!

Which one(s)? With the recent extended cold snap, and the yearly abundance of late-season irrigation run-off, I would say, without even going there to check, that all the climbs listed in Alex's and Jason's guide for Frenchman Coulee are in right now. A quick PM to Paul Dietrick would probably confirm or refute that statement. 'Course, he's probably out climbing at Banks Lake right now.

There's ice to climb at Moses Lake? Never heard of any. Are you sure you don't mean Moses Coulee? If you do, please be aware that there are serious access issues with most of the climbs at Moses Coulee, as you must cross private proerty to access the climbs, and those property owners don't want any ice climbers on their lands.

Has it ever frozen over enough to climb? I don't think so.

Looks like it's about time to move this thread to Spray...

This one does...

I know, I know, why would you climb over here when it's -20C in Canada? Well, because I only had one day to get out after a couple of missions this week. Horestail Falls is in, frozen solid. A great solo! Peekaboo is in, although it still is a toprope. Other stuff at the Great Wall and Drowning Pool is on the way. Anybody go in to Strobach since New Year's?? geordie? Big Wave? tomtom? Spill it if you did!

From the article... The Sunday Telegraph also reported that after the crocodile feeding, Irwin and his American wife, Terri, told their five-year-old daughter, Bindi, to splash around in a pool near a crocodile pen to encourage the reptiles to swim out. "Now flail around and look helpless, that's the girl, good girl," Terri Irwin was quoted as saying. "That's my girl, Bindi Irwin, the other white meat." And finally, lest I seem insensitive... A zoo official was quoted by the paper as saying a gate connecting the pool to the crocodile pen had been shut.

I stand corrected. Just heard the news about an hour ago from our call-out coordinator. It appears that one of the three MAST choppers saw tracks from the air (don't know exactly where, but I suspect on the west side of Denny Mountain/Denny Creek drainage, after a short discussion with one of the ski searchers yesterday at the debrief) and a ground team was dispatched to check it out. It took 7 hours of tough skiing for the team to get there, but he was found alive and talking. He was airlifted out, and taken to Harborview, where he was treated for hypothermia and dehydration. It will be interesting to hear his story of the events of the last 4 days. Nice to have a happy ending to what otherwise appeared to be a sad outcome. Kudos to all who showed up to help look for him. Good job!

And again yesterday. Numerous (I think the number stated at the debrief was 13) county SAR and Mountain Rescue units responded on Saturday to the call for additional assistance, and over 100 searchers/probers were put in the field checking chutes on the west side of the valley that had as yet remained unchecked. Also, some ski searchers went off the back (west) side of Denny Mountain to check. No sign of the subject was found. As of yesterday late afternoon, the ground search was called off. Today, there are to be three MAST choppers that will fly over the area, and other areas nearby not yet checked. Snowmobile teams with stand-by ground recovery teams will be on standby to respond if anything shows up. I think I'm stating the obvious that after four days, the likelihood of finding anything after all the recent snow is not high. Doug, were you there yesterday?

Nice! Great way to end the year, and a nice thought of rememberance of others.

And then unclip the sling at your waist biner once above the move and leave the pro until picked up? Curious... Didn't see a rope, so this appears to be some sort of a quasi-solo technique, but how does one pick up the pieces left behind? No rope, so can't rappel down to them to clean. Downclimb? Sketchy at best, since pro was placed on the way up. Just wondering...

Overheard from nerdy newbie at the REI climbing counter: "Do they fold up for easy transport on your rack?" "Oh, sure. No problem." "How do you get them to deploy once you put 'em in the crack?" "Well, that's what this here little straw is for..."